Where can I get a generic no-subscrption DVR?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Ben321, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. mdm08033

    mdm08033 Member

    Apr 23, 2007


    Maybe we should start an Occupy TiVo protest. I want everyone llese to pay for stuff so I can get it for free. Yeah, that's the ticket.:D Please don't feed the pigeons.
  2. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2008
    The OP expected a basic DVR for $13 from goodwill. The OP might find a Series 1 with an early date of manufacture on Craig's list in that price range. The Series 1 with an early date of manufacture will have basic DVR functionality without a subscription.
  3. Ben321

    Ben321 New Member

    Aug 7, 2011
    I don't even want timed recording, I want press rec to record and stop to stop, FULLY MANUAL recording.
  4. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Dec 15, 2003
    Denver ish
    There are series 2 TiVo DVD combo units with TiVo Basic for free on them, aren't there?
  5. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2008


    Yes, but they usually sell in the $100 range. The OP wants one for $13.
  6. mattack

    mattack Well-Known Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    To be ultra-nitpicky, you can pay lifetime too. (That was taken away for a while a few years ago, but has been true for most of Tivo's existence.)

    The lifetime is even more expensive nowadays than it used to be, but one can amortize the price vs $19.99/month to see if it's worth it to them to "gamble". (I had 2 S1s where the gamble was definitely worth it.. a TivoHD still going -- though I do have one drive that got into a reboot loop -- and I have one S3 where the gamble *may* have not paid off.. it's currently dead and I haven't yet tried getting a power supply to see if that would revive it.. But I *still* would go lifetime on a new one.)
  7. yunlin12

    yunlin12 Tivonation Citizen

    Mar 14, 2003
    San Jose, CA
    Hey Doug!

    The ReplayTV 3000 I bought 11 years ago finally went, it's no longer getting guide data or even allow manually scheduled recurring recordings. Wonder if schedule-redirect would work for that as well.

    BTW, that was the best $600-700 I've ever spent.
  8. dstoffa

    dstoffa Member

    Dec 14, 2005
    New York, NY

    Good to hear from you, too! Happy New Year!

    You have three options with a modem based RTV.

    1. Setup FreeSCO on a PC with a modem to intercept your RTV's nightly calls. The RTV requests will be intercepted by WiRNS. WiRNS 3.0 has all the plug-ins needed to authenticate Replays, set clocks, etc, just like the DNNA mothership used to do. The RTV Programmers released the cypher when DNNA initially planned to kill the service back in July. WiRNS gets guide data from schedulesdirect. The cost for the guide data is $20 / year. You could also configure WiRNS to scrape the internets for listings. In the end, if you don't have an old serial modem lying around, this becomes more of a fun project than a cheap solution to get the 3000 working again.


    2. Change the phone number your 3000 dials to get its data. DNNA has since rescinded their decision to end guide data, but they are not maintaining the dial-up network. They leased access through earthlink or something, and more and more numbers just stop working.


    3. You can use the replacement service, percdata:


    This is a subscription service and is similar to paying Tivo / DNNA a monthly fee.

    That being written, if you got 11 years out of a DVR w/o even having to replace a hard disk, you sir certainly spent your money wisely...

    I currently use WiRNS with schedulesdirect to set the clocks / feed guide data to my RTV's.

    Good luck!
  9. lillevig

    lillevig Cold in East Iowa

    Dec 6, 2010
    Marion, Iowa
    In case no one else has mentioned it here, aside from some of the DVD/DVR combo S2 Tivos that had limited service, the only one I know of that provides "free" DVR functions is the S1. I can't speak for the S1 Sony but the S1 Philips allows manual (set time and channel) recording like a VCR.
  10. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2006
    semi-coastal NC
    TiVos don't really work that way, subscribed or not.

    If you press record it will record the show that's currently on, including the previous 30 minutes of it if the channel hasn't been changed since before that, and it will stop recording when that show ends.

    For example, if your TiVo is already on the channel of one of your local broadcast stations and the 6:00 news is underway, you can press record and it will take what's already in it's 30 minute cache, beginning at the 6:00 mark, and store it as that show and add the rest of it as it comes in, but at 6:30, when the network news starts, it won't record that unless you've told it to. It won't start recording when you press record and just keep on truckin' 'til you hit stop or it fills up the hard drive.

    That's just not the way they designed it.

    Sometimes it's frustrating that it isn't, like when it's just turned 6:00 and you want to record as much as possible of the show that ran from 5:30 to 6:00, but things are the way they are.
  11. Worf

    Worf Well-Known Member

    Sep 15, 2000
    Here's some "no subscription" DVRs you can consider.

    TiVo with Lifetime. Once you have lifetime, service is free on the box.

    Windows Media Center - just get a PC and a TV tuner. WMC includes free guide service. The tuner card probably also comes with DVR-like software.

    Cablebox DVR - provided by your cable company - you can either buy it outright or rent it.

    DVD recorder with hard drive.

    PC + MythTV, if you're handy with Linux.

    There's tons of options.
  12. ncted

    ncted A leaf on the wind

    May 13, 2007
    Durham, NC
  13. Millionaire2K

    Millionaire2K Active Member

    Jun 15, 2008
    You can get a NON sub TIVO by buying lifetime. :p
  14. dianebrat

    dianebrat wait.. I did what? TCF Club

    Jul 6, 2002
    The OP has been given a ton of great options, but there's no way they will ever get their $13 thrift store Tivo sans-subscription to do what they want.
  15. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2006
    semi-coastal NC
    Judging by this

    "I don't even want timed recording, I want press rec to record and stop to stop, FULLY MANUAL recording."

    it wouldn't do what he wanted if it had PLS.

    Of course if it did, he'd quickly find out what he was missing and come on over to the dark side.;)
  16. rasmasyean

    rasmasyean New Member

    Jul 28, 2011
    I just got an HD Home Run Prime.

    I think it works pretty good. I just got rid of my "Subscription TiVo". The only thing I would miss is the On Demand, which isn't available with a cablecard. But it's easily solved if you know what you would like to watch and just record a bunch of stuff. You can always upgrade a hard drive/get external ones, etc. too.

    I like the WMC descriptions. I think they pull it from the internet somewhere and it's pretty detailed.

    Theoretically, you can have a "portable DVR" by just buying a laptop that doubles as an actual computer. And if you want to watch Hulu and Youtube and web videos, you can't beat using a Windows computer vs. TiVoware or DVRware. Not to mention Gaming On Demand like OnLive and whatever is in the future.
  17. CoxInPHX

    CoxInPHX COX Communications

    Jan 14, 2011
    Phoenix, AZ
  18. yunlin12

    yunlin12 Tivonation Citizen

    Mar 14, 2003
    San Jose, CA
    Thanks Doug! Wow that's a lot of hoops to jump through, I think my parents will be perfectly happy with the new Tivo I got them. If that last 1/2 as long as the RTV I would pat myself on buying that Tivo. I haven't been in the hacking mode for a while. I realize cutting cable packages down saves a tons more $ than trying to keep an old DVR running. Buy not paying Comcast for digital package I can buy a new lifetime Tivo a year, with money left over to pay Netflix.
  19. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    They have a final date now. Program guide and technical support for the Moxi HD DVR ends on December 31st, 2013.

  20. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

    Feb 4, 2008
    I wonder if the Moxi fanclub will come back to TiVo and visit the TiVo Community once again.

    Competition is good, but it just goes to show how tough a market the home DVR market it.

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