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Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by zoma4, Apr 25, 2007.
Sorry Found it. Jim Toland
I moved Tivo to go from a XP SP2 system to a Vista Business system using PCMover. After that, it did not work, until today, when I open Program Files/Tivo/Desktop and changed all of the Tivo applications to work in XP SP2 Compatibility mode.
I just tested it by transferring a program and starting it and all works fine
If you do not know how to do that, just Google XP SP2 Compatibility Mode and you will find instructions.
Yeah TiVo! WTF? Where is Vista support? I have a shiny new computer with a big hard drive and a fast processor that I want to do all my video work on and I'm forced to use my old laptop to make shows available to my TiVo. This is ridiculous!!!
Come on Guys. You can do better.
You left out the part about an operating system with a smaller user base than Mac OS or Linux. I've seen so so Mac support and zero Linux support.
Maybe so, but clearly it's not going to stay that way for long. The other two OSs won't (unfortunately) change their market share anytime soon, if ever, but Vista is shipping with almost every new PC and laptop and will quickly rise in market share (at the expense of XP only).
I, a Linux user at work, wish it weren't so, but dems da facts.
Hey all, I have tried a few things regarding this.
1) Installed Vista as Dual boot (keep XP for Tivo and other non-Vista applications). I realized this isn't optimal since I have had great success with Vista and am very happy with the upgrade.
2) Installed Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 (Free!). Once setup, you install the XP CD and install it onto the VM. I then installed Tivo to that to experiment. Basically, this allows me to run Vista and XP (in a window) at the same time so that my Tivo shows are automatically uploaded to my PC. I don't have to boot XP just to have TivoToGo to get my shows. My wive collect a weekly show then burn a set of shows to a DVD via Roxio.
Problem with the 2nd option is that Roxio needs TivoToGo to recognize .tivo files (I think). I haven't found a workaround for this, yet. I haven't actually tried to install TivoToGo to Vista (but it sounds like it doesn't work).
Hope something here helps you who can't wait.
I finally gave up on trying to install Tivo Desktop (2.3a) to my daughter's new computer with Vista Home Basic. Downloaded Galleon which I have been using on my XP Pro machine and it worked fine - once I remembered that the media access key wasn't the same as the MAC address of the TIVO ;-) - (o.k so I'm getting old and senile!). It doesn't require the TIVO beacon to be installed.
Galleon has always been a better program than TIVO desktop. You can find it at galleon.tv
I, too, am disappointed in TIVO's support on this issue. I've been a TIVO user since the model 1 and really do believe that the Vista compatability issue should be a priority for them. With all the competition TIVO is getting from other DVR's one would think that they would be more attentive to this issue.
I found instructions for installing TiVo Desktop 2.4 on Vista:
The installation worked for me and the server runs, but it says the TiVo beacon is not available (even though it's running as a service).
Unfortunately I can't fully explain why, but after a lot of frustration I have successfully installed Desktop 2.3 with Vista Home Premium. Initially I was unable to do this, but because of a hassle installing another program (Dragon 9.5), I did a clean reinstall of Vista (at first I installed Vista using XP upgrade mode). After that, .tivo files would not run properly in Windows Media Player (initial frame appeared, but froze), but then I removed my version of PowerDVD (which would not run under Vista either), and after that Tivo Desktop began working flawlessly (conflict with the codecs??). I don't mess with music files, so cannot comment on that. Using a Dell Latitude D520 with 2GB memory. I only offer this post to indicate that there is evidently no absolute reason why 2.3 cannot be used with Vista. Recommend people keep trying and not ditch Vista.
I followed the instructions and the install worked, but the TiVo is not even installed as a service. What else did you have to do to get the service installed?
I've tried adding my Vista desktop manually as a server in my TiVo but it sees nothing there and I'd really like to display my HD photos and play my mp3s again...
I don't recall doing anything else, except that I installed the unbox on demand application at the same time.
I just looked at my computer, and TiVo Desktop is running, but not listed as a service. TiVoBeacon2 is listed as a running service under the task manager. However, when I go into the server properties of TiVo Desktop, it says the TiVo Beacon service is not available.
This seems to be taking Tivo longer then it should. 99% of my applications used in XP, work perfectly in Vista. I have two that do not work with Vista Ultimate 64bit, and Tivo Desktop being one of them, the other is a freeware application that hasnt seen an update in almost two years.
Please spend the 5 minutes needed to allow your application to install under x86 on a 64bit machine please.
A friend is having the same problem. Any luck figuring this out?
I also just came here from that pvr Blog. First off both links for Orca that were on there were down. Then as I have read farther down there is this Beacon issue. I did a Google search for 2.3a and here I am. I am going to download that, use it until the Real Deal VISTA compatible version comes out. VISTA has enough issues that I dont need to be hacking things on it to get it to work. Honestly folks VISTA has its Ups, and it has some serious downs.
Thanks for the link to 2.3a!!
To further point out how badly Tivo has taken care of this situation, look at installed users. There are 25 million Mac OS X users and 40 million Vista users as of today. Sure many of those users are business users and won't be installing Tivo desktop but the same could be said of Macs.
Microsoft has also announced that the Vista adoption rate is twice what it was for XP. The software has been available for developers in one form or another for over 2 years and has been available to the general public since November.
This is a two week effort that an intern could take care of, but Tivo has done nothing.
My 2 cents...
Clean install of Vista. I'm a Galleon user, so I tried installing that first. It installed without issue (using latest JRE), but would not start the beacon service, which was subsequently marked for deletion.
I tried TD 2.4, but that didn't work (obviously). I went back to TD 2.3a of which I fortunately still had a copy. As previously reported, 2.3a installed without any problems and the beacon service installed and ran as well. I'm not interested in actually *running* Tivo Desktop, but I needed the beacon service for Galleon.
Happy to say everything is running well for me at this time.
I've had tiVo desktop running Vista for 4 months now with not much problems. The tivo beacon dosen't work whenever i'm wireless, but when i use a wired connection to my router averything works fine with no problems, including the tivo beacon.
I've been working on trying to get Tivo Desktop working on my vista system. I noticed that only the "server" service was set up as a service, so I manually added, tivo notify, tivo beacon, and tivo transfer following the format used for "server" in the registry startup listing.
After doing that I looked for these things to be running, but they were not. I then did a bit of research and found out that windows defender classifies programs (as to whether they are "trusted" or not). All of the tivo items (on my system -- I'm not sure how this works exactly so I don't know if how they show on my system is the same for everyone or not) are "not yet classified" and so windows defender doesn't let them run automatically in the start up. I tried to run them by hand but that didn't work either -- I'm not sure why.
So I hope that what I've found will be the key that someone else needs to figure this out and help us all get the desktop up and running in vista.