What's with the all season threads?

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by IndyJones1023, Jun 7, 2011.

  1. Jun 7, 2011 #41 of 196
    LoadStar

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    I agree with hating the season threads. I've gotten into shows late, and the season-long threads end up with a ugly mish-mash of spoilers for all the episodes, so I end up having to skip the thread altogether.

    Edit: the only place where I can see season threads working is with competition reality shows like "SYTYCD," "Dancing with the Stars," and the like. I can't imagine too many people save up seasons of shows like that, and the discussion about an episode usually occurs live or close to it, then dies off again until the next episode airs.
     
  2. Jun 7, 2011 #42 of 196
    IndyJones1023

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    I usually save up an entire season of Amazing Race to watch on flights, so I'm always way behind on those.
     
  3. Jun 7, 2011 #43 of 196
    hefe

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    I'm going to start an All shows on TV [SPOILERS] thread.
     
  4. Jun 7, 2011 #44 of 196
    Hank

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  5. Jun 7, 2011 #45 of 196
    marksman

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    Some shows might get a couple or no posts for a show. Season long threads tend to be more all encompassing for a particular show and not necessarily a detailed in depth analysis of each episode.

    If enough people watch a given show to comment on it, then you have episode threads. Some shows just have more discussion about them then others.

    I don't mind the season long threads for shows that don't have a lot of people talking about here. If I am behind I can kind of tell where I am or else I wait until I catch up.. Not a really big deal.

    On shows with little discussion the odds of someone posting in a single season thread is probably higher across an entire season then people going back and posting to a thread with 2 posts in it, or creating a thread 10 weeks after an episode aired because nobody made one.

    People are free to make episode threads. Nobody should be afraid to make an episode thread because a season long thread exists. The reality is in if people will use it though, and if enough people HERE are interested in discussing it that making an individual episode thread is worthwhile.
     
  6. Jun 7, 2011 #46 of 196
    marksman

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    The season long threads came about because some shows simply did not have enough interest to garner episode threads every week.

    These days people are predicting if a show is going to be that kind of show or not.. I think in the case of Franklin and Bash it is probably reasonable to assume the discussion volume for the life of the show will not warrant weekly threads.

    That there is a whole thread to discuss why there is not a thread for the first episode might prove that wrong. The season long threads came out of a desire for people to discuss shows that simply did not have enough interest for individual weekly threads.

    Spreading 35 posts over 20 threads in a course of a season is not conducive to any discussion. Putting them in a single thread at least allows people to contribute in some meaningful way at some point.
     
  7. Jun 7, 2011 #47 of 196
    orangeboy

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    How about using the post title option to indicate the episode being discussed? See above.

    It may give someone who has not kept up with the season an indication to hold off reading more of the thread.

    Or...

    When the discussion does turn to a new episode, the first to contribute to the thread adds in a preface post indicating that a new episode is about to be discussed?
     
  8. Jun 7, 2011 #48 of 196
    scooterboy

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    Hey, if I order in the next 20 minutes will I get free shipping and handling? :p

    People keep putting this up as a reason. I don't see it. So what if an episode thread gets just a couple of posts? If that's the case, it will fall off the 1st page quickly enough.

    I'm with Indy on this.
     
  9. Jun 7, 2011 #49 of 196
    IndyJones1023

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    In theory, that sounds nice. But let's think about the implementation.

    In the F&B thread, let's say I start to catch up in week 4. I make a post on page 3 "this show is great, I loved it when that one guy punched the other one!"

    Now, must everyone stop posting until I catch up? Because if previous conversation continues about episodes 2 - 4 then I can't read anymore further. What if someone responds to my post? How can I answer without risking reading spoiler posts in the interim?

    It all falls apart very quickly.
     
  10. Jun 7, 2011 #50 of 196
    scandia101

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    Neither is excluding people simply because they've time shifted the episodes.
    Isn't a major part of this forum about inclusion? Then why exclude anyone if it's completely unnecessary???


    At some point, but not unless/until they catch up because those that are behind have thoughts and opinions that simply do not matter.
     
  11. Jun 7, 2011 #51 of 196
    JohnB1000

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    Interesting discussion but I really don't see what the harm is in starting a thread for an episode that has aired but you have not watched. If you want to encourage episode threads then start them, then you can join in later when you've watched. If you leave it to others you get what they want.
     
  12. Jun 7, 2011 #52 of 196
    nyny523

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    I like the Episode threads - I often fall behind and can still read and comment on a specific episode when I have caught up.

    I am afraid to open the whole season type threads for fear of reading spoilers of episodes I may not have seen yet. So I don't go in them at all.
     
  13. Jun 7, 2011 #53 of 196
    verdugan

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    I just started a season thread for 'My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding.' I did that rather than creating an episode thread because after 2 weeks nobody had created a thread. So obviously there wasn't a lot of interest.

    Also, being a reality tv series, err, documentary :) the episodes are independent from each other and you're not giving any big plot secrets away.

    To sum up, for a low interest, (non-contest) reality tv show, I think season threads are ok. For scripted shows or contest reality tv shows, I don't think they are.

    For example, I watched The Pacifc about a year after it aired on HBO. It was nice to be able to go to each episode's thread rather than one big one.
     
  14. Jun 7, 2011 #54 of 196
    jsmeeker

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    What about for "reality" shows like "pawn Stars" and "Deadliest Catch" and "American Chopper"?

    Lots of single season threads there. They seem popular, too.
     
  15. Jun 7, 2011 #55 of 196
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    There is also the Whale Wars thread which has been going since 2008.
     
  16. Jun 7, 2011 #56 of 196
    DevdogAZ

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    People start threads and post in threads because they want to participate in a discussion about a show. If nobody responds or only a couple people are participating, the thread dies and then nobody bothers to start one for future episodes, thinking that there's little interest.
    That's only partially true. If you look at the participation in the episode threads, you'll see that for most shows, 80% of the thread participation happens within 24 hours of the show's original airing. Even in a forum dedicated to time shifters, most people don't time shift all that much. I'll occasionally see a thread bumped by someone who is catching up late on a show, and I always find it odd, because most of the time, that bump ends up being the last post in the thread.
    I think it all boils down to this: If you're watching a show several weeks later, you can't really expect to participate in meaningful discussion about the show, as most people will have already moved on. There will be a few rare shows that get enough attention that discussions will last for days/weeks after the episode, but those shows are few and far between.

    And just for your reference, I don't watch Franklin & Bash, but looked at the thread to see what people thought, and the majority of posts were simply "I liked it" or "decent show" or "Good to see Malcolm McDowell again." There was very little meaningful discussion about the show itself. You're not missing much.

    Edit: I just went and caught up on that thread. Out of 23 posts, there are about 4 that reference the actual plot of the show, and 3 of those 4 are talking about one specific line that people liked. I'll be very surprised if there's much ongoing discussion about this show once we get a few episodes in.
     
  17. Jun 7, 2011 #57 of 196
    scandia101

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    So what? That seems to say that a bad thread that excludes many is better than no thread. That's not necessarily the case.

    So what? That person was able to say what they wanted to say and probably read the thread and learned what others thought and maybe gained a new perspective on the show and didn't have to see any spoilers in the process.

    Well, not when so many people share your attitude of exclusion.

    That information couldn't be more irrelevant.
     
  18. Jun 7, 2011 #58 of 196
    DevdogAZ

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    A thread that encourages as much participation as possible is the best kind of thread. If a show isn't going to garner much thread traffic for single episode threads, it's better to discuss that show in a full episode thread. More participation = better.
    I have no problem with that. But why should those who actually watch the show in a timely manner and want to have a thread that encourages the most possible participation during the few days immediately after the episode airs be penalized just because some people want the luxury of watching a show several weeks later but still want to be able to participate in discussions?
    Has nothing to do with exclusion. Anyone is welcome to participate. But very few people are still interested in discussing an episode a couple of weeks later. That's not anyone's fault, it's just simple reality. If you wait to watch a show, you can't expect to participate in discussion about it. Are you suggesting that in order to be "inclusive," people should be standing by ready to discuss any episode, even weeks after it's aired and already been discussed?
    It was only meant for Indy, who started this thread because he hadn't yet watched the pilot of F&B, wouldn't get to it for a couple more weeks, and was lamenting the fact that there was only a season-long thread. I was simply informing him that he wasn't missing much, and that he could go read it right now without watching the show and nothing would be spoiled.
     
  19. Jun 7, 2011 #59 of 196
    IndyJones1023

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    I think this may be thw crux: individual threads per episode allow all to contribute whereas all encompassing threads tend to prevent interaction. So why use the latter over the former?
     
  20. Jun 7, 2011 #60 of 196
    DevdogAZ

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    I think you're looking at it from only one angle: that of someone who comes to a thread late and wants to read without spoilers. But if you look at it from the perspective of someone who watches the show in a timely manner and wants to participate in lively conversation, experience has shown that for certain shows, that happens more with full season threads.

    So the real crux is: Who's needs are most important? Those who watch a show within 24-48 hours after a show airs and want to discuss it? Or those who watch a show several days/weeks later and want a non-spoilery thread to read?
     

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