What's with the all season threads?

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  1. Jun 7, 2011 #21 of 196
    IndyJones1023

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    And how can one predict a show will be low traffic? And how is that even a valid argument? Who cares how much traffic a thread gets. An all encompassing thread virtually guarantees I'll (and probably others) won't ever join in.
     
  2. Jun 7, 2011 #22 of 196
    SurvivorFan

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    is it...
    If you start an episode 1 thread now it might get some traction and the existing all-season thread could die and be replaced by new episode threads each week.

    If it doesn't, then I guess the tribe has spoken...
     
  3. Jun 7, 2011 #23 of 196
    IndyJones1023

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    Why would I start a thread on a show I haven't watched yet?
     
  4. Jun 7, 2011 #24 of 196
    SurvivorFan

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    is it...
    I guess I missed that part. Sorry.
     
  5. Jun 7, 2011 #25 of 196
    jradosh

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    It's not really a voting matter. It's really a matter of consideration for the time-shifters, isn't it? Starting a full-season thread has such little benefit compared to the 'harm' (for lack of a better word) it does to those of us that delay viewing.
     
  6. Jun 7, 2011 #26 of 196
    IndyJones1023

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    And this is a forum for time-shifters, after all.
     
  7. Jun 7, 2011 #27 of 196
    jsmeeker

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    Yeah.. This is the theory behind it.

    Right.. I think a one season thread is more convenient than a bunch of threads with two posts in them. As long as you keep up with the show and don't get too far begind, it works.

    That's the problem. It's always hard to predict what will be popular. It's not always perfect. :)
     
  8. Jun 7, 2011 #28 of 196
    DancnDude

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    I think it makes sense for some shows. Daytime Soap Operas for instance. There's so many episodes and little interest that it makes sense to group them all up.

    Big Brother I'd imagine will get both like in past seasons: one season-long thread that encompasses things that happen in the live feeds and spoilers for things that may be coming up in the TV episode, then individual episode threads about the actual episode.
     
  9. Jun 7, 2011 #29 of 196
    Hank

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    Not at all. I was just stating my preference. I prefer one thread for non-popular (low forum traffic) shows.. it keeps everything nicely tied together in one convenient place. And With my new TV-Talk Thread Notifier App, I'm sure not to miss any new threads for any shows I'm interested in.
     
  10. Jun 7, 2011 #30 of 196
    Jonathan_S

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    I don't think they're worth the tradeoffs, but it's not so much how much traffic each thread gets.

    It's that it seems like for low traffic shows a full season thread triggers more episode discussion than all the individual episode threads combined. The original poster is expecting to have a better chance of discussing each episode by preemptively merging the whole season into one ongoing thread.
    They may be wrong, and obviously guessing the level of discussion you'll get a new series is very hit or miss.
    (I guess it's more forgivable for returning shows where experience over the last couple seasons shows that per-episode threads routinely die in a post or two without discussion)
     
  11. Jun 7, 2011 #31 of 196
    Hank

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    For example, one season thread I'm for Men of a Certain Age -- the "season" is only six episodes, and there aren't very many different plots in the show and they episodes are fairly dependent, so it's not like BBT or HIMYM where those episodes really stand on their own, with only a subtle whole season story arc. For MOACA, the show is the arc.. so I think that's why it is better suited for a season thread then shorter sitcoms. IMHO.
     
  12. Jun 7, 2011 #32 of 196
    BrettStah

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    Indy wins this argument.
     
  13. Jun 7, 2011 #33 of 196
    mmilton80

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    I like individual episode threads because it is helpful for those in the future who want to know more or discuss a certain episode. The all season threads may be fine in the short term, but are rubbish for those who discover the shows late.

    Also, when people lump two episodes together because they are on the same night...it is nice for that night, but when catching up it is unhelpful. I steer clear.
     
  14. Jun 7, 2011 #34 of 196
    jsmeeker

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    Right. It's all about what drives the most discussion (posts). A show with "low interest" might get more discussion with all the talk in a singel thread. Maybe you'lll go an episode or two with NO posts. But you'll still have a single thread with posts in it. This could be better at attracting other people that per episodes threads with a single post in them (the first one) or even periods of time with NO per episode threads being started.

    Here is an example of a show I might want to discuss. "The World According to Paris". It's a "reality show" with Paris Hilton. I wanted to start a "Whole series" thread for it. I figure not too many people will watch, so figure this is the best way to attract the most discussion.
     
  15. Jun 7, 2011 #35 of 196
    jradosh

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    That show is one of the reasons I'm against the full season thread. :p

    I generally am a week or two behind my viewing, but when I do finally get to an episode I'm dying to discuss it here. But I can't :mad: because the next episode is already spoiled in the thread.
     
  16. Jun 7, 2011 #36 of 196
    Hank

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    Maybe the difference is the interest level of a show. I know I look forward to the next new MOACA and watch it as soon as it's been recorded (or the next day at the latest).. and then like to discuss it here right away.

    If I wait two weeks or more before *watching* a show, I'm just not that interested in it so spoilers really wouldn't bother me that much.
     
  17. Jun 7, 2011 #37 of 196
    murgatroyd

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    People argue that single-season threads are good for shows which have no interest, but they are extremely unfriendly to people who get behind or save up episodes. So the latecomers don't post at all, so the show remains 'low interest'. It's a great way to kill discussion in a show, IMHO.

    Over the years, I've suggested that people use the post titles to indicate which show they have caught up to, so that latecomers could stop reading when the posts are talking about the episodes they haven't watched yet, but no one has taken me up on the idea.

    So yeah, I'm with Indy. I'll make an exception for stuff like SYTYCD and put all the audition / Vegas episodes in one thread, but otherwise, I think it's a bad idea.
     
  18. Jun 7, 2011 #38 of 196
    IndyJones1023

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    Where are you coming up with this? IMDB shows a 10 episode first season and a 13 episode order for this season.
     
  19. Jun 7, 2011 #39 of 196
    Hank

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    They split the second season into two half-seasons. They're just now showing the second half of the second season. The first half ran months ago.

    If you participated in the "season" thread, you'd know this.


    :) :D
     
  20. Jun 7, 2011 #40 of 196
    MNoelH

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    I dislike the all season threads. For one, if I've time shifted want to discuss something in episode 2, it will show up during other's discussion of episode 6. I fear reading any responses to my discussion because maybe my discussion point was resolved in episode 4 or 5.

    It just doesn't allow for the flow of conversation.

    The one time I didn't mind having a full season thread was during The Next Great Restaurant show. But only because I stayed current with the episodes.

    My vote would be to abolish full season threads. If there ends up being threads with one or two posts, so be it. Are we trying to preserve real estate for some reason I'm not aware of?
     

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