What's cost of a Lifetime to TIVO (Company, not us)

Discussion in 'TiVo Suggestion Avenue' started by desiboy, Oct 3, 2007.

  1. desiboy

    desiboy Member

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    What is it?

    1) server space?
    2) bandwidth?
    3) Local number setup & load on it?

    Cant be EPG, it is same for all.

    So why the aversion to Lifetime? Especially those who already have one?

    Any thoughts?
     
  2. andyw715

    andyw715 Well-Known Member

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    revenue stream

    A 3 year sub or month to month is realized in monthly revenue, providing easier revenue projections.

    Also product upgrade, you are less likely to upgrade your box to a newer version if there is a un-transferable sub on it.

    Although there are some people that need to be on the bleeding edge of technology, imagine if a car company sold a bumper to bumper lifetime (for the car) warrantee....you would probably drive it till its dead vs buy a new car every 3-5 years....the car company would be losing out on new sales.

    Basically those with lifetime subs on a older box get thier tivo service for free (given the price of a 3year sub vs lifetime) - zero revenue stream to Tivo from these subs.

    It would be interesting to know how many Lifetime subs there are that have broken even as a percentage of total subs.
     
  3. MikeMar

    MikeMar Go Pats

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    It's funny, I have 3 series 2 tivos

    1 lifetime and 2 multi discount

    I had the 2 monthly upgraded (so i had 2 extra 40 gig hd's)

    I was using the lifetime as a dummy box downstairs to just transfer shows down to (so the 40 gig stock was fine)

    That actually died last month (After about 3 years)

    LUCKILY I just popped one of the old ones in there, clear and delete and I was good to go again.

    had I NOT had the hard drive, I might have canceled one of the monthly ones and taken that drive out and into the lifetime.


    Not sure the point of my story but It's easy to keep a lifetime going because most of the time it's just the hard drive that dies.
     
  4. desiboy

    desiboy Member

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    The original question remains: what is NPV of $300 to TiVo today for already Lifetime owners given their company's borrowing rate and cash flow situation.

    The cost I see (other than a staff working on next gen) is local telephone line capacity. The ones online, next to no cost.

    I cant see the rationale for not allowing to current Lifetime owners:
    1) Specials for Lifetime transfers ($100 sugg)
    2) Specials for Lifetime ($300)

    I have a Lifetime'd ReplayTV & S2. I'd like to get TiVoHD and pay up 4yrs worth (considering NPV) once rather than pay monthly

    One bright spot: In Nov 07 ReplayTV will introduce and USB2 HD stick. I plan to get a sub $200 computer and get on with my quest for HD PVR.
     
  5. megazone

    megazone Hardcore TiVo Geek

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    You do realize that the *only* think that USB stick has in common with your old ReplayTV box is the logo, right? DNNA took the name and slapped it on all-new PC-based software, which has been badly panned by reviewers. And that USB stick is an OEM stick you can get elsewhere today - it is nothing special.

    If you're going to go with a PC as a DVR, use Beyond TV or some DVR package which is far better than the junk DNNA is slapping the RTV logo on these days.
     

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