What is the point of Standby?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by TazExprez, Aug 24, 2015.

  1. TazExprez

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    I was checking out the Power Saving Settings menu and noticed that my boxes are set to Off, so Standby is only turning off the LED lights and the audio and video outputs, and it has to be set to Standby manually. Is there a shortcut on the remote to make the boxes go into Standby, or are the Low, Medium, and High settings the only way?
     
  2. lpwcomp

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    Did you miss the post that immediately precedes yours? I have Power Saving OFF and it's been like that since the option first appeared. I still lose the live buffers if I put my Base Roamio in standby.
     
  3. skypros

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    You know what would be nice..... Is when you press the TV PWR button on the remote if it would put the Tivo in a state that cuts the A/V and makes the tuners return so there is no buffering happening. And of course make it a user selectable menu item.

    And in turn..... This would enable CEC so the tivo's HDMI will talk to my A/V equipment (like my DirecTV genie did)
     
  4. lpwcomp

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    Why exactly do you want to stop buffering?
     
  5. aaronwt

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    Why do I need it to continue buffering? I use the two hour standby so that when not recording the hard drive spins down. For me it is extremely rare to need any of the tuner buffers. Since when I take the TiVo out of standby, it's recording the stuff I want.
     
  6. lpwcomp

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    I didn't realize that skypros was one of your aliases.
     
  7. aaronwt

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    :confused: :eek: :eek: :eek:

    Sorry about that. I don't think I was paying full attention. I need to go back to bed. I woke up feeling like crap so I stayed home from work today.
     
  8. lpwcomp

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    s'OK. Hope you feel better.
     
  9. skypros

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    Why do I need Tivo to be buffering when I am not watching it (TV is off) So what is the point of tivo being fully active..... when No One is using it.
     
  10. lessd

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    I have the ch set for news, when I turn on the TV and see the last part of a news story I can back up to see the last 1/2 hour, I don't need 6 buffers but what difference does that make.
     
  11. TazExprez

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    I will probably be receiving my Mini boxes tomorrow. If I turn TiVo Suggestions off, will each box maintain a separate buffer for the last viewed channel? I have 2 Roamio Basic boxes and I ordered 6 Mini V2 boxes. Each Roamio will be hooked up to 3 Mini boxes.
     
  12. lpwcomp

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    Thanks for your answer. I'm all for people being able to use their TiVo as they wish.

    As to your specific request - while it might not be quite as simple as you think to implement, I suppose it could be done. When I was putting mine in standby, I did miss the old Stby button but doing the 4-5 key presses needed wasn't that burdensome.
     
  13. lpwcomp

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    Each Roamio will have 4 buffers, one for each tuner. The Minis themselves have no live buffers. I've no idea what happens to a tuner's buffer when a Mini "grabs" it.
     
  14. aaronwt

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    I constantly record news programs from a bunch of stations. I have several dozen One Passes for News. I have them set to keep two episodes. But this way I always have the most recent news program available to watch.
     
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    The buffer is still there. The buffer is on the host. The Mini doesn't make it lose the buffer. Of course tuning to a new channel and the buffer needs to start filling. But that has always been the case.

    Although the difference in that situation is if your are on the host Roamio and you tune to a different channel that is already on another tuner, it will switch to that tuner. On the Mini it grabs a tuner and holds it. So whenever you change the channel a new buffer needs to start filling up.
     
  16. lpwcomp

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    I know that. I said that. What I don't know is whether or not the Mini keeps track of the last channel it was being used to view and thus the first thing it does when it grabs a tuner is tune to that channel, thus voiding the buffer unless the tuner happens to still be on that channel.
     
  17. JoeKustra

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    Every morning I use my Mini. It gets a tuner not being used by the host. I've never tried to determine if there is a special significance to which tuner is used (0 to 3 on my basic Roamio), but it does get that tuner's buffer. I always change that channel and when, after breakfast, I kill the Mini, I go to the Roamio and see that I now have two tuners on that channel. I have never seen a variation of this operation. I guess I could check the tuner's number, but I don't care. It never uses the last channel viewed.
     
  18. TazExprez

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    So with TiVo, if you think you might want to see early news programs, or some other morning shows, you should just record everything? Right now, you can leave Verizon boxes on whatever channels you might be interested in seeing when you get up, and if you like a show you may rewind it, or record whatever is in the 1 hour buffer. This doesn't actually apply to me because I mostly watch stuff that I previously intentionally recorded, or I stream Netflix, but it's a pretty nice feature for many people.
     
  19. JoeKustra

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    I think the beginning of your post is directed to the wrong person. I never use the buffers to recover content that happened when I was sleeping. But on topic:

    Device is basic Roamio with 1TB HDD taken from the MyBook AV. Four tuners on HD channels, Power saving set to max. Observation:

    You get a two minute morning. This doesn't change to a one minute warning and doesn't count down.

    Power, as shown on my Kill-A-Watt, indicated 17W while watching TV, not recording anything.

    Manual standby changed the power to 15W with infrequent indications of 16W.

    This morning the power use indicated 16W, Hitting the Live TV button gave the indication of 17W and the starting up message. MB temp was 40C at all times.

    As for the rest of the story, the Mini seems to grab the next available tuner numerically. I will test that further but since the host and Mini are on different floors, it will take a few hours.

    To answer the original question, I feel the purpose of Standby is to disable the A/V output to support equipment or people who care.
     
  20. aaronwt

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    On my Roamio Basic with a 1TB Red drive(Which uses less power than the 500GB stock). In standby with no tuners buffering it uses 14 watts. With all four tuners recording it uses 16.2 watts

    EDIT: So now this got me curious what my refurb Roamio with the 500GB stock drive would draw.

    With all four tuners recording it's drawing around 17.2 watts. It seems to be fluctuating more than the other Roamio. Between 16.2 and 18.2
     
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