What is "Overlap Protection?"

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  1. xtc

    xtc New Member

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    This is supposed to be one of the new features on the HR10-250 in the near future. What is it?
     
  2. jbernardis

    jbernardis Active Member

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    If two of you programs to record overlap by 5 minutes or less, it will partially record the lower priority one (as well as the entire higher priority one), only cutting off the overlap, instead of not recording anything at all as it did prior to having this feature.
     
  3. newsposter

    newsposter Poster of News

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    darn i was hoping it would catch sports overruns and extend the time accordingly :)
     
  4. TonyD79

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    I think my last two VCRs had this. Been a while. But it makes sense. Good feature.
     
  5. xtc

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    thanks for the info, jbernardis. Does the HR20 do this?
     
  6. jbernardis

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    Sorry - but I don't know anything about the HR20. I am no longer a DTV subscriber. I've moved back to digital cable with a couple of Series 3's.
     
  7. Billy66

    Billy66 Again with shoelaces

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    The HR20 does not have it xtc.

    One thing that helps with padding on the HR20 is that if your shows are back to back on the same channel, it will use only one tuner and place the padded part on both recordings instead of using both tuners to get it done.
     
  8. jimb726

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    If I recall correctly the HR20 will overlap as long as the recordings are on the same channel or am I mistaken?
     
  9. Billy66

    Billy66 Again with shoelaces

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    That's what I'm speaking about in the second paragraph.
     
  10. guins

    guins Networked DTiVo User

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    This is a feature I've wished it had for years....It really bugged me when it wouldn't record say a 2 hour show when in the 2nd hour there were two shows to be recorded. FINE THEN JUST RECORD THE FIRST HOUR THEN STOP....well it will now. :up: Oops, no it won't, my tivos are zippered.....damn!
     
  11. xtc

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    thanks Billy66
     
  12. jbernardis

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    Actually, according to my understanding, it wont record the first hour because the 1 hour overlap is too large. I think the overlap has to be 5 minutes or less.
     
  13. guins

    guins Networked DTiVo User

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    Really???? Why just 5 minutes?
     
  14. jbernardis

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    I guess if the overlap is more than 5 minutes it's not considered an overlap - it's considered a scheduling conflict and only the higher priority program will get recorded.

    I believe this feature is meant to combat the practice of some networks (NBC) starting programs 1 or 2 minutes early or ending them 1 or 2 minutes late. Without overlap protection, these programs wouldn't be recorded at all if that 1 or 2 minutes overlapped with a higher priority program. This feature at least allows you to record the 58 minutes that do not overlap.

    I think it's a great feature and I'm very happy to have it.
     
  15. guins

    guins Networked DTiVo User

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    oh, well i use soft padding on my zippered DTivos so no big deal for me. that is a nice feature.
     
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  17. TyroneShoes

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    Well, technically, two shows on the same channel can't possibly overlap.

    I think what Billy might be referring to is the feature that Tivo should have had from day one, which is if the tuner is not scheduled elsewhere, it takes the output from a single tuner, and records just a few seconds more than the scheduled time, typically at the head and at the tail. If two shows are back to back on the same channel and you record them both, when you play them back, you will get the last few seconds of the first recording also duplicated on the first few seconds of the second recording (although the HR2x cleverly cues it to where the overlap ends--you may have to rewind to see it).

    IOW, it takes the tuner output and for a short overlap period funnels that into both recordings--the head of one overlaps the tail of the other, and for that short time one tuner contributes content to both recordings.

    What this means is that if you have "seamless" broadcasts, such as "How Hard I Banged Your Mother" blending directly into "Two and a Half Men" (with no commercials in between) you will get all of both shows. Sheer genius! (of course no PVR can predict how accurately the broadcast time will match the Tribune/EPG time that they CLAIM the show will fit into. Blame that on the broadcasters).

    Compare this to Tivo and every other of the dozen PVR's I've owned, every one of which truncated about 15 seconds between the end of the first recording while it ramped up to start the second recording, which I always found supremely annoying. Until now, that is.
     

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