What I hate about Battlestar Galactica

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  1. vman41

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    All I remembered about the original BSG was that I never watched it, which was strange because I was 17 at the time and really liked Star Wars. My TiVo suggestions folder picked up a couple episodes and the mystery is solved: it was a really really lame show. The new series, while far from perfect, is a way better production.
     
  2. Trent Bates

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    A little off topic here, but I missed a lot of shows between the ages of 16 and 19 because I was out with my friends. I'm always shocked when I see a rerun of something good and can't believe that I've never seen it before!

    Perhaps one of the best things that can be said about Glen Larson shows is that they are good concepts that are often executed poorly.
    I was about to say that it was good enough for TV at the time but would never make it to the big screen. That's not the case though. The Battlestar Galactica feature film did make it to the big screen. :eek: I have no idea how well it did, a friend and I went to see it though. I now have the DVD.
    BSG did have some pretty popular stars at the time!


    JYoung, That's an interesting bit of info. I don't know if I ever knew about that or not. Are you saying that the initial showing of that episode featured those scenes and they were cut from subsequent scenes by chance? Or are you saying you learned the info somewhere else?
     
  3. Tsiehta

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    huh?
    :confused:
     
  4. Trent Bates

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    I had to go back and look at that post again! He was calling Gaius Baltar Dr. Bashir. Even though they are not the same actor, I'd bet most of us can see a resemblance. I don't even think they are the same nationality. They do have a similar accent I suppose.

    Character-wise, Dr. Bashir and Gaius Baltar are quite a bit different. Gaius is the "whipped" and out-of-control unintentional (unless he's a Cylon) traitor to the human race, and Dr. Bashir was the genetically enhanced medical doctor on DS9. (He didn't really betray anyone that I can think of.)
    It might be worth mentioning that the original Baltar (Made famous by actor John Colicos) from the 1979 series was a power-hungry traitor that knew he was collaborating with the Cylons and still was only concerned for his own well being.


    I do agree that too much sex-on-TV has a detrimental effect to our society. Many can't support the weight! :)
    Joking aside, I'm not for corrupting our youth or innocent, but sex is part of life. The show is rated appropriately, isn't it?
     
  5. JYoung

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    The thing you have to remember is that there are multiple versions of the pilot floating around.
    When BSG premiered in 1978, ABC ran it in a three hour time slot.
    Without commercials, the running length would have been just under 2.5 hours.
    The pilot was then edited down to about 2 hours and release theatrically in the second run theaters and the foreign markets as a feature.
    One scene they might have cut down or out would be the scene with Athena undressing in the locker room and Starbuck walking in on her.

    The "G-Suit" footage was mostly cut from the episode before it aired. By this time, ABC had decried that BSG was to be strictly family fare.
    Source of some of this information is an interview with Maren Jensen published in Starlog in 1978.
    (Maren Jensen was a hottie then. I never understood why Starbuck preferred Cassieopia over Athena)
     
  6. Trent Bates

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    I totally agree about Maren Jensen!

    I think I might have to go back and look at my DVDs to get my facts straight. For a long time, I was under the impression that the feature film was not just a cut down version of the Pilot but had parts of other episodes in it as well. That impression was formed back in the days when you couldn't buy DVDs or even VHS 6 months later and watch it again.

    At some point I might have known that the feature film was just a cut version of the pilot, but now I can't remember which I thought it was. It's been nearly 27 years since I've seen the feature film. Who knows what I remember!

    Getting back to the original topic: What I hate about Battlestar Galactica is that there's no Athena character in it anymore! And what about Bree? Is Dualla supposed to replace Bree?
     
  7. chewbaccad

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    We might get an Athena character in the new season, as it seems they'll be forced to introduce more to us. At least with a name like Athena there shouldn't be a character sex change ;)
     
  8. IndyJones1023

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    Maren Jensen = teh r0x0rs!

    Or at least she did.
     
  9. JYoung

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    From imdb.com
    Runtime: 148 min / Canada:122 min (Ontario) / Canada:125 min (Qu├ębec) / USA:125 min (theatrical version)


    Soooo, you're saying you wouldn't mind nuAthena making out with Stardoe?
     
  10. jones07

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    That was cheesy. My son said "Hey dad that's our RadioShack shortwave radio" $39.99 :p
     
  11. Greg K.

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    but it fits, the speaker opening has the corners cut off. :)

    One difference with the original BSG feature film vs. the TV pilot is that the Cylons kill Baltar at the end of the feature.
     
  12. Trent Bates

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    And yet, the radio was still less "cheesy" than what you might find in a Glen Larson show. It would have had flashing lights all over it and a rotating antenna at least! It would probably also have that reflective prism tape all over it to remind us that it was futuristic!


    I'm going to go out on a limb and state that I remember Baltar appearing to get executed by the Cylons in the three part TV pilot as well. Does anyone remember actually seeing him die or anything. In the TV version they cut away right before he gets it as I remember.
     
  13. jones07

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    Oh for sure, Larson's BSG had extra Cheese all over it :p
    But as a teenager I never notice that or frequent reuse of stock footage. But my kids however picked right up on the stock footage by episode 4 or 5 of the DVD
     
  14. Rob Helmerichs

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    And since it was often half-baked, much of the cheese never even melted.

    But there WERE a few good episodes in there, that seemed to live up to at least some of the original, more serious concept.

    And then the wheels fell off...
     
  15. JYoung

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    I believe that Baltar was killed in the theatrical release.
    In the pilot that was shown on ABC, they didn't show him getting killed but implied that he was going to be.
    Then at the end, when the new Imperious Leader is talking to him, he gets his chance to go after the fleet.
     
  16. TonyD79

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    I watched the original as a college student and loved it because it was campy. We made fun of it all the time. (Cylons were dumber and easier to get away from than Daleks!)

    The only part of the show that appealed to me from a story standpoint was that there was some mystery about the Imperious Leader that they never explored. Instead, they made the show more and more like Sid and Marty Kroft were making it.

    Then they got to Earth. Yuck!

    The new show moves too slowly and is a bit darker than it needs to be but it is much better.
     
  17. IndyJones1023

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    Ha ha! Well put!
     

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