What I got for the extra $500 I spent on my S3

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by briankasper, Jul 24, 2007.

  1. Jul 24, 2007 #81 of 115
    greg_burns

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    Thought I just read the S3 is suppose to get M-Card support when the software revision for it and the Tivo HD become the same, no?
     
  2. Jul 24, 2007 #82 of 115
    bilbo

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    I got my S3 for a little bit under $550 (Dell pre-Christmas deal). And I transferred Lifetime Service for $200 (after I got about 5 years with a Series 2 with a service number starting with 140 (60 GB model). The extra 90GB is a necessity for my primary DVR. I will probably get a Tivo HD (or another S3) when MRV is enabled and/or there is another LT transfer offer.
     
  3. Jul 24, 2007 #83 of 115
    ChuckyBox

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    Of course they could have. So could have you. If you had known what the future would bring, you could have adjusted your purchasing decisions to maximize your satisfaction. Why didn't you? Or what if, say, HD Rocketboom had caught on like wildfire and the demand for S3 was so great that they were hard to find and selling for a huge premium on eBay right now? Then TiVo wouldn't have even released this box and you'd be glad you got one when you did. But TiVo can't see the future any more than you can.

    In retrospect, it looks like they did a decent job handling S3 sales. Given the nightmare of getting the cable companies to stick working cable cards in these boxes, and their own software problems, they had to throttle demand. If they had released this new box back then, at this price point, the company would have been crushed by support calls, returns, and bad press.
     
  4. Jul 24, 2007 #84 of 115
    dig_duggler

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    One of my (and I would suspect many here) motivations for finally plunking down some bank (although not the full $800) for the s3 was to move my lifetime in this 'limited time offer' window, one that got extended by months at the last minute. What Tivo does seem to be displaying is that every year or so this offer might creep up again (possibly when they need to move units). This is one of those things that when combined with other annoyances (the mrv loss, announcements that go by the wayside [netflix, aac support, etc], greatly reduced cost units) that doesn't leave you feeling like a valued customer, but rather taken for granted.

    However, it's pretty clear that their market audience sees Tivo as the only game in town (myself included), so they kind of can.
     
  5. Jul 24, 2007 #85 of 115
    nuttzy06

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    I don't feel ripped off in the slightest. I am a bit surprised by how quickly the price has come down though. But I just remember the tremendous frustration in dealing with my Comcast supplied Motorola HD DVR. Having the unit freeze for 30 seconds at a time during the middle of fast forwarding definitely effected my viewing pleasure and I'd gladly overpay to get myself out of that situation.

    But some day there will be a Series 4, and if doesn't have have some killer app (like dual tuner, cable card, HD this time around) then I'm unlikely to be an early adopter again.

    -Nuttzy :cool:
     
  6. Jul 24, 2007 #86 of 115
    Mongoos150

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    You can pick up the remote for $49 from Tivo.com. The cables can be found for less than $10 - both HDMI and Component - from Bluejeanscable.com or Monoprice.com, and the cable much higher quality than included S3 cabling. "Keep on trying." :rolleyes:
     
  7. Jul 24, 2007 #87 of 115
    Adam1115

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    I'm wrong for having the opinion that they should through in an HDMI cable? It was just my opinion that they should through in a $5 / cable. It pisses me off when I buy things and have to run back to the store to get cables, batteries, etc...

    Having component cables which can't hook up to many lower end HDTV's and 2 channel audio is not a solution in my opinion.

    Edit: BTW, isn't it true that some content isn't viewable in HD without HDMI and an HDCP compatible TV?
     
  8. Jul 24, 2007 #88 of 115
    dig_duggler

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    No.
     
  9. Jul 24, 2007 #89 of 115
    ZeoTiVo

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    he says in a forum the likes of which I have never seen for any other single company out there ;)
     
  10. Jul 24, 2007 #90 of 115
    GoHokies!

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    No, your statement that there was no way to hook up the THD with the included cables and get HD video was wrong.

    A quick browse of bestbuy.com showed me that the vast majority of HDTVs sold have multiple component inputs, so wrong again.

    Also, since most TV's won't pass 5 channel audio from the HDMI port out to a receiver nor have the capabilities to hook all 6 speakers up to them, if you want more than 2 channel audio, the lack of an HDMI cable isn't going to affect your audio, so 3 strikes and you're out.

    In your opinion HDMI is better, but that doesn't change the fact that your statement that the customer is going to be forced to use S-video (which MZ points out isn't even included, so you're wrong again) is completely false.

    Mongoose, let me know when you get that OLED and THX certification working on your THD, mmkay? :rolleyes: The fact that you can't means the boxes are "different" and, by definition, not "equivalent".
     
  11. Jul 24, 2007 #91 of 115
    Bierboy

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    + me....I paid MSRP Sept. 12 last year and don't regret it a bit. I'm not an idiot (despite what my friends might believe!); I knew exactly what I was paying for and how much I was paying. No one twisted my arm or put a gun to my head to buy the S3 at MSRP. :D
     
  12. Jul 24, 2007 #92 of 115
    Adam1115

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    Right, because nobody would dream of plugging their HDMI cable into one of the HDMI inputs on their stereo receiver....
     
  13. Jul 24, 2007 #93 of 115
    GoHokies!

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    True, because the cheap people with the mythical HDTVs that don't have component inputs are going to have HDMI switching receivers.

    The rest of your post was still flat wrong, though. :D
     
  14. Jul 24, 2007 #94 of 115
    Mongoos150

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    S3 is on Amazon at $599 - not bad, a $300 premium (still not quite worth the remote, screen) - but with the remote, screen, bigger HDD, enabled ESATA port and nicer designed box I can justify a $300 premium. No way could I justify the full $799 retail price. I am having my cable service installed Saturday (no getting around it) and need a box BY FRIDAY. Because BB/CC/Tivo.com all tell me I won't get it for approx. 3 weeks, I am going to go ahead and order the S3. It's a bit more expensive, but it's not terrible, considering I was giong to be spending extra money upgrading the HDD and buying the Glo remote anyway. I'm changing my tune (humorously enough) ;)
     
  15. Jul 24, 2007 #95 of 115
    ZeoTiVo

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    well for the record it sounds like you knew exactly what your were doing and had included the premium price in your buying decision. You sound most happy with that decison and seem to have gotten the value you perceived. Good on yah :up:
     
  16. Jul 24, 2007 #96 of 115
    Bierboy

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    I was savin' my pennies, nickels and dimes WAY before Sept. 12, so I paid cash on the barrel head for the S3 when it came out.
     
  17. Jul 25, 2007 #97 of 115
    GregComeLately

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    Put me in the column of those who are a bit perturbed by the floating lifetime transfer deadline. I bought my S3 at supposed deadline and didn't settle upon my first HD TV until a few months later. doh. I could have saved some shekels by holding off on the S3 for that while longer, as my unit didn't provide me with a significant benefit until the new hd panel arrived.

    Ah well. I'll know better next time. In retrospect, why would they (Tivo) ever turn down an easy $200? Seems like they should milk that cash cow for as long the current models exist, then start up again when introducing the next generation, rinse and repeat forevermore.
     
  18. Jul 25, 2007 #98 of 115
    Gregor

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    I paid msrp plus transferred the lifetime off an S1 on Opening Day. I was so tired of the Comcast POS dvr it was well worth the money. At this point, I'll probably buy the HD, upgrade the drives on both units and retire my Series 2s. The only question is whether 4 tuners is really enough :)

    Early adoption is expensive, if I hadn't had as much trouble with the Comcast unit as I did, and considering it's limited capacity, I might have waited, but I'm glad I pulled the trigger.
     
  19. Jul 25, 2007 #99 of 115
    berfy

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    I believe the HD comes with a Component cable. Not as good as HDMI but acceptable nonetheless.
     
  20. Chew

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    I wonder what the possibility of some "S3-only software feature" might be? Something cool that the S3 does that no other unit will. Those who spent the extra cash and aren't happy about it will feel a little better and it keeps the S3 as an option to future buyers.

    Otherwise, I can't see how anyone would buy a S3 now?
     

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