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Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by briankasper, Jul 24, 2007.
Especially since you can just use composite cables
not for Hd you cant.
More like about $10.00
Misread, component yes, composite no.
My HDMI DVD player didn't come with HDMI cable...Nor did it come with a component cable. It came with a crappy RCA composite cable. Did I expect this? Yes. Did I plan for it by having an HDMI cable from Monoprice already in hand? Yes. Would I want TiVo to raise the price of the TiVo HD so they could include a HDMI cable? Nope. I'll get my own, thank you.
If people are smart enough to check the threads, they are smart enough to procure a HDMI or component cable without getting ripped off.
Yep, hdmi cables are less than $10. I hate it when people buy stuff and then order the cables from the same place, that normally charges almost $100 for something that you can get for $10!!!
10 months of high quality HDTV viewing experience should be worth $50 a month. Early adopters pay a premium, you must have known that when you decided to adopt the S3 when you did. I paid $377 during the father's day promotion which is only a $77 premium above the S3 lite. The remote alone is worth $77 IMHO.
Yes you are.
No they didn't. They have CSRs that don't follow the rules and help people in ways that corporate doesn't support. Would a strict adherance to the rules (essentially screwing over your fellow man) make you feel better? I'd be willing to bet you'd sing a different tune if your Tivo breaks on the 91st day and a CSR helps you out.
I wouldn't call this box "equivalent", it's pretty similar but the Glo remote is MUCH better, the display is pretty nice and chalk the rest up to an "early adopter tax" (which you claim to not be complaining about).
And mistakes aside, the THD does come with COMPONENT cables, so there is an out of the box HD hookup choice. Wrong again, Adam, but keep on trying!
Originally Posted by briankasper
You are misrepresenting my statements. I am not "bitching and moaning"
I felt I was voicing a complaint in a fairly reasonable tone. You apparently feel otherwise, which is your perogative. I think describing someone as "bitching and moaning" is a bit of an ad-hominem attack, but I guess that's to be expected in a public forum.
Thanks, this description of your perspective helps me to understand why many people disagree with me. I understand your point about individual CSRs helping people out, but based upon what someone posted to another thread about his experience with a recent lifetime transfer, my understanding is that it's not a per-CSR decision. Apparently they're not able to offer it, but if you ask they will give it to you. I don't know this for certain, though, as I'm going by another poster's statements.
I'm glad you feel the display and the backlit remote are worth the price difference. Unfortunately, I feel differently. Also, I'm sorry if you still think I'm complaining about the "early adopter tax". I have no problem with the price of the S3 dropping after I bought it (this always happens with electronics). I simply feel a bit misled by TiVo since an important factor in my decision was the purportedly limited-time lifetime transfer offer.
I think you might be confusing my posts with someone else's. I don't remember mentioning a lack of HD hookups.
Thanks again for your perspective on the lifetime transfer issue. That was enlightening.
You spent MORE than retail?!
Same cables. Just match up the color. Try it and see
"If you have component video output on your DVD player and your TV or projector can take that signal, use it. DVD players with this output usually have three RCA jacks which are color-coded green, blue, and red. They are labeled either Y, B-Y, R-Y, or alternatively Y, Pb, Pr, or Y, Cb, Cr. For practical purposes they are all the same thing. If your television or projector also has the same three RCA jacks, just connect them with a three-wire component video cable making sure the colors match up on both ends (or you can use three standard composite video cables to do the same thing)."
what about all those posts where you bluntly say you paid too much for the S3 and that the new one is 60% less and it should not have dropped that much in cost over 10 months.
you have been complaining about paying too much for your TiVo and ignoring all the other arguments like - Duh - anyone could have told uyou 800$ hada big margin and are now honing your argument down to the one flaw TiVo had in their launch of the S3. have fun with that but you are bitching and moaning and it just looks pretty silly if you ask most people in the forum.
One man's reasonable is another man's "bitching and moaning", I agree - I meant nothing personal. I can see how your issues center around the lifetime transfer deal - since there isn't a lifetime transfer deal on the THD (yet) it's just the cost of getting that ever valuable lifetime onto an HD box. It's tough not to be bitter when someone else gets a good deal, especially when it seems as though you followed the rules and they didn't, but that's life sometimes.
I got lazy in my quoting, the HD hookups were directed at the posts just above mine saying that there wasn't an "out of the box" HD hookup solution (which is false).
Everybody who wants Tivo to some day make a profit and stay in business raise your hand.
I thought so!
"Some day" has happened already. They made a profit in the first quarter of this year.
YOU know that it doesn't come with it, but you are also smarter than the 'masses' that this box is being released for, many of which don't know what an HDMI cable is.
They also don't hang around the forums or closely examine the box to find this information out.
It probably would cost them $3-5 to include one if they bought them in bulk...
To the best of my recollection, I never said I paid to much for the S3. I said I wished TiVo would differentiate more between the functionality of the S3 and that of the HDT, and I said I don't understand how the price could come down so much in such a short time. If I did say I spent too much for my S3, then I apologize and withdraw that particular statement. I love my S3 and I've gotten a lot of use out of it.
As it turns out, GoHokies posted a very thoughtful (and thought-provoking) response to one of my posts, which helped me to understand why many people (possibly including you) disagree with me.
For the record, I don't begrudge anyone else their opportunity to purchase an HDT or to transfer their lifetime to it. As GoHokies succinctly described in a later response, I feel like I played by the rules of the lifetime transfer offer and, because of this, ended up spending more than many others have spent for the same thing.
I love my S3 and am still glad I paid the "early adopter tax", but I do feel that TiVo didn't handle the lifetime transfer issue as well as they could have.
The TiVo HD comes with component cables, FYI. The only cable it's missing is HDMI.
Thanks for the kind words.
I do agree completely with this part, but I'm a "law & order" kind of guy that thinks that rules should be followed.
It doesn't come with S-Video. It comes with component video and a composite video/stereo audio combo cable, as well as a phone wire and power cable - that's it. And the instructions repeatedly stress using the component cables and NOT connecting composite.