What I got for the extra $500 I spent on my S3

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by briankasper, Jul 24, 2007.

  1. Jul 24, 2007 #41 of 115
    VinceA

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    $458... bought it earlier this month (32" Olevia) :)
     
  2. Jul 24, 2007 #42 of 115
    Hogues92

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    Is the Tivo HD really a version of the "S3 platform", or do you have to make a whole new platform because of the different components?
     
  3. Jul 24, 2007 #43 of 115
    briankasper

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    Los...
    You are misrepresenting my statements. I am not "bitching and moaning" because the price of the S3 went down. I'm voicing a complaint because

    1) TiVo changed their stated policy about lifetime transfers after I made a nontrivial purchasing decision based upon that policy; and

    2) I think a 60% price drop for essentially equivalent functionality in 10 months is a bit much.

    I have never complained about the "early adopter tax" I paid. I've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of my S3, and I will continue to do so for years. I simply think TiVo could have handled this better.

    -B
     
  4. Jul 24, 2007 #44 of 115
    davecramer74

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    hehe, its retarded to pay that much. You can get them for about 10 bucks these days. I got mine for free off the cable guy. They use HDMI as a standard here in my area now. They use to use componant.
     
  5. Jul 24, 2007 #45 of 115
    bmgoodman

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    Tivo could have handled everything a bit better, and many things much better. Believe me, I've complained about a number of decisions they have made. But this one just isn't one of them. I waited until after Christmas and got and S3 shipped from Dell for $599. I did the lifetime transfer for $200. Even bought a third party extended warranty (4 years) for $79. I don't even have an HDTV yet! I knew I was taking a risk being on the bleeding edge, and I'm surprised the S3 Lite and the S3 and so similar, but I am not upset with Tivo.

    Besides, if you are patient for a while, I'm betting you'll find out the chips in the Lite version are just not as good as those in the S3. Noticeably so. (This is all speculative on my part.) The picture quality on my S3 at medium is better than any S2 at high. Easily better.

    So, at the end of my rant, I'm completely satisfied with Tivo in this respect. Now, if they could just fix the A/V sync issue and the lack of closed captions on so many shows....
     
  6. Jul 24, 2007 #46 of 115
    ckelly33

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    Nobody put a gun to your head and forced you to buy a S3 TiVo. Heck I bought THREE!! I don't have a ton of regret, I just hope TiVo stays afloat financially. If lowering the price (or re-releasing a lower end S3) acomplishes that, I'm all for it.

    It did rub me the wrong way that TiVo's fine print read that you had to buy an S3 directly from the TiVo Store in order to be eligible for the lifetime transfer and then they allowed third party purchases the transfer. I could've saved $300 if I hadn't followed their rules (or I wouldn't have ANY regret if THEY HAD!).
     
  7. Jul 24, 2007 #47 of 115
    ZeoTiVo

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    your every post in this thread is a complaint about that. it was well speculated in this forum the price would rop fast on the S3. The policy change was becasue TiVo had a massive foul up in upgrading to new fulfillment software just before S3 release (hope the people fired for that found a nice job at wendys) . There was a good reason ofr the change in policy and it was communicated here by TiVo just as soon as it was known.
    now some people seem able to play the CSR lottery and get lucky still.


    so complain away but at least be honest about what you are complaining about
     
  8. Jul 24, 2007 #48 of 115
    Mongoos150

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    They're not doing S3 owners a disservice - they're doing HD owners - the CONSUMER IN GENERAL - a huge benefit. People like me who were waiting for a price drop on the S3 can now jump into the world of HD TiVo service - with about the same features as the S3 - without spending nearly as much coin. I'm buying the S3 remote for $49. I already bought a hi density gold-connecting 24awg HDMI cable for $8 from BlueJeans. I'll upgrade the drive at a later date. This thing is saving us (without $1K to spend on the S3 + yr subscription) a lot of financial headache. The box does exactly what you bought it for, and you paid the price that it was advertised at - you must've felt it was worth it at the time. Tech drops in price, always has - always will. Noone to be upset at except for yourself.

    BMGoodman - Initial reviews of the TiVoHD are glowing. I highly doubt the chips on the HD are worse than the S3 (perhaps even better, after being in development after the S3, the TiVo team had time to learn from the hardware shortcomings {whatever they may be} of the S3). Are you trying to justify your purchase? ;)
     
  9. Jul 24, 2007 #49 of 115
    briankasper

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    Los...
    That's not entirely correct. One of my motivations for paying the price I did was the explicit time limit on the lifetime transfers. Since TiVo is apparently continuing to allow lifetime transfers, I feel they haven't done as well by me as they could have.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm happy that you'll now be able to enjoy watching HDTV with a TiVo, but I am perplexed as to exactly how TiVo was able to shave over 60% off the cost of a nearly-equivalent system in 10 months.

    -B
     
  10. Jul 24, 2007 #50 of 115
    pkscout

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    I paid $3,500 for an EDTV (panasonic plasma) three years ago. Now I'm looking at spending about half that much for a larger 1080p TV. So yea, them's the breaks when you buy electronics.
     
  11. Jul 24, 2007 #51 of 115
    davecramer74

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    I dont know, ask the hd dvd and blue ray adopters who saw the prices of their units drop like 80% in 6 months.

    With that said, i agree with you, im suprised this new unit is pretty much the same as the s3 functionality wise. S3 owners should get a discount. Especially those who paid that original 799. Id be a little pissed too.
     
  12. Jul 24, 2007 #52 of 115
    Mongoos150

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    Perhaps the S3 was never even close to the $799 in cost... As another poster said earlier (which makes a heckofalot of sense to me) is that TiVo wanted to "milk the market" so to say of early adopters eager for a TiVo that was HD capable. Now that they have done so, they're ready to jump into the mass HD market with a lower price point (though it seems very cheap that TiVo advertises the box at $299, when after tax and 1yr service the box comes out to $478)... :thumbsdown:
     
  13. Jul 24, 2007 #53 of 115
    pkscout

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    The Lifetime transfer was not a policy, it was an offer. That offer had an expiration date at a time when there was no other HD based TiVo available. TiVo did not change any policy, they just decided to extend the offer.

    Companies create marketing offers like this to convince consumers to purchase. So you're mad because the marketing worked???
     
  14. Jul 24, 2007 #54 of 115
    ZeoTiVo

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    selelrs of PCs owe me a lot of money then :rolleyes:
    Do you huys have any idea how silly it sounds to say Tivo overcharged you for something they clearly said was aimed at a premium market and had a premium price with no subsudy from them.

    TiVo clearly said they were selling S3 to make money. heck best Buy had a 500$ cost to them entered into their system for the first shipment and even that was reported on here. You get a big round of thanks from me for helping TiVo out :) but frankly it is just daft to be complaining publicly as if you just realized that an S3 at 800$ had a big profit margin cranked in.
     
  15. Jul 24, 2007 #55 of 115
    briankasper

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    Los...
    I have never been anything but honest.

    Given that they had a problem with their software, I agree that an extension of the lifetime transfer period was warranted, and I'd certainly be happy if I was one of the people being allowed to transfer lifetime now -- but I also believe I'm justified in being annoyed that they're not following their own policy after I made a purchasing decision based upon that policy.

    -B
     
  16. Jul 24, 2007 #56 of 115
    Adam1115

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    This is REALLY stupid.

    Half of the people are going to get the thing home and realize that they can't hook it up to their HDTV and will be pissed. Then they are going to have to wait 3-4 more days to order one online or get ripped off by running down to Best Buy. Nice.

    The other half are going to hook it up with the cables that DO come with it. We're going to see threads and support calls to TiVo wondering why their new HD TiVo looks like CRAP when they've hooked it up with the S-Video cable. Also nice.

    :rolleyes:
     
  17. Jul 24, 2007 #57 of 115
    Frankenstien

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    I've had my S3 since March. Paid $650 and have been happy ever since. I'm glad to see the TiVo HD and hope lots of folks jump on it.

    It was clear to me that the S3 was a high end unit. I knew going in that a less costly HD TiVo would come out at some point.

    I knew what I was doing and am still happy with the outcome. :)
     
  18. Jul 24, 2007 #58 of 115
    SugarBowl

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    My series 3 HDMI connection has never worked with my sony TV. Turning on the TV actually causes the Tivo to restart.
     
  19. Jul 24, 2007 #59 of 115
    davecramer74

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    the tivo hd has componant doesnt it? Who has an HDTV and doesnt have componant cables laying around. You dont need HDMI for HD.
     
  20. Jul 24, 2007 #60 of 115
    phreekk

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    I'm fine paying what I did. Sure it was a lot more than I'd prefer to have paid, but I'm most annoyed at Tivo still not letting us transfer video in any direction. It's been a really long time since they said that it'd be coming soon, and we can't even upload our own content to the box.
     

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