What I got for the extra $500 I spent on my S3

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by briankasper, Jul 24, 2007.

  1. Jul 24, 2007 #21 of 115
    robmfielding

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    I have Tivo Series 1 that has a grandfathered lifetime transfer (before Jan 21, 2000). Can I transfer that to a HD Tivo or should I keep my just placed order for a Tivo Series 3? I thought the lifetime transfer was good for one time for any future standalone Tivo. Anyone know for sure?

    Thanks for the help,
    Rob
     
  2. Jul 24, 2007 #22 of 115
    MickeS

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    It is good for a transfer to any TiVo model, including the TiVo HD, according to what has been quoted here before.
     
  3. Jul 24, 2007 #23 of 115
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    Mike Lang

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    Many people are dumb. :)
     
  5. Jul 24, 2007 #25 of 115
    bown

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    Agreed :D
     
  6. Jul 24, 2007 #26 of 115
    Adam1115

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    Why did you pay $799? I paid $679 through the TiVo store...

    $380 for 10 months of having a series 3, and it included a glo remote, more storage, oled, looks cooler.

    And I'm betting the $299 version doesn't include all the cables...
     
  7. Jul 24, 2007 #27 of 115
    bareyb

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    Look at it this way. If you spent $500.00 on a vacation with your loved ones, you wouldn't think twice. In fact, you'd be thrilled to be getting off so cheap!

    Instead you spent the $500.00 on the S3. It's the Rolls Royce of HD DVR's and you have gotten MONTHS (not days) of enjoyment out of it. ALSO, it will continue to give you at least a year or two (if not more) of great HDTV viewing with your family as well as the perk of having the nicest TiVo product ever made.

    There will likely never be as nice a PVR coming from TiVo ever again. We got the one and probably only. The new box looks like an "el cheapo" in comparison. From here on out it's about plain boxes and cutting prices. If there was some type of important functionality on the new HD model that I can't get on the S3 then I might be a little miffed. That hasn't happened yet, so I'm good. I'm glad I got the S3 and if I was offered with the same choice today I'd STILL buy the S3 over the HD. :)
     
  8. Jul 24, 2007 #28 of 115
    Arcady

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    The $299 version is missing the HDMI cable.
     
  9. Jul 24, 2007 #29 of 115
    briankasper

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    You think the statement "I feel that TiVo is doing S3 owners a disservice by not differentiating more between the S3's capabilities and those of the TiVo HD" is ranting? I think it's voicing a complaint -- and I didn't even mention a class-action lawsuit. All I said was I'm becoming "really annoyed".

    I bought my S3 when I did for the price I did because it *was* worth it to me -- but I still stand by my statement that the differences between the TiVo HD and the S3 don't seem enough to justify a $500 price differential.

    Obviously, the prices of electronics come down. I've watched the price of the S3 drop and haven't minded it a bit. What I do mind is when I take an action based upon a statement from TiVo (for example "the lifetime transfer offer expires in a month") and then TiVo invalidates that statement. I'm happy for the other people that are transferring their lifetime subscriptions now, but that doesn't mean I don't feel like I got a bit shafted by TiVo.

    -B
     
  10. Jul 24, 2007 #30 of 115
    rodalpho

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    Early adopters always get screwed, that's how the world works. Of course we get technology earlier than everybody else too.
     
  11. Jul 24, 2007 #31 of 115
    wackymann

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    They're allowed to sell their products for any price they want. You're also allowed to buy it or leave it. They may not always sell their boxes for the perfectly optimal price under any 1 criteria, but I bet they've put more thought into their price points than you have. I'm guessing they purposefully priced the S3 at a high cost to help them shake out the issues with HD by testing it on us early-adopter-weenies, and are now using what they learned to perfect the Tivo-HD so they can actually crack into the vastly larger market of the average consumer. I can't say whether or not the strategy is/was successful, but it certainly seems feasible that it could work.
     
  12. Jul 24, 2007 #32 of 115
    briankasper

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    I have no problem with the fact that I paid $800 for my TiVo but could have paid less if I had waited. As you and others have correctly mentioned, them's the breaks with consumer electronics.

    I *do* have a problem when I perform a cost/benefit analysis based upon TiVo's statement that the lifetime transfer offer would expire, and then they fail to live up to that statement.

    For the record, I'm very happy with my S3, and I have no intention of giving it up -- I just think TiVo could have handled this all a bit better. I'm happy for the folks who are still able to get lifetime transfers now, because a lifetimed TiVo is a Very Good Thing; I'm just a bit disgruntled about how my personal situation turned out.

    -B
     
  13. Jul 24, 2007 #33 of 115
    Hogues92

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    But not the M-Card support :mad: . I can understand the anger and I think that people have a right to be angry and voice their opinions. Although I just bought the S3, I'm not really upset. I like my series 3 and didn't pay too much more than the current Tivo HD price. If I bought it for full price, I may feel differently, but who knows.
     
  14. Jul 24, 2007 #34 of 115
    nrc

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    If you're in Best Buy and you see someone about to buy a $50 HDMI cable you should have the decency remind them to pick pick up a $30 USB cable while they're there.
     
  15. Jul 24, 2007 #35 of 115
    SugarBowl

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    anyone remember how much their first hdtv cost?
     
  16. Jul 24, 2007 #36 of 115
    rodalpho

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    Umm, no. There's no possible way that the S3's price point was actually desirable. They priced it at $800 because they had no choice.
     
  17. Jul 24, 2007 #37 of 115
    briankasper

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    And some Monster Cable speaker wire.

    -B
     
  18. Jul 24, 2007 #38 of 115
    Saturn

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    I think it is much more likely that us early adopters simply paid for the original R&D TiVo put in to create the "S3 platform."
     
  19. Jul 24, 2007 #39 of 115
    dig_duggler

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    Price of early adoption, yes. In the OP's defense offering the lifetime offer again is kind of crappy when prior advertising made it seem more exclusive. However, fool me once...

    And over a 60% price drop (although the products are not exactly equal) within one year of launch is pretty unique. I'm sure the THX certification, while the majority here seem not to care about it, was a big chunk of that cost.
     
  20. Jul 24, 2007 #40 of 115
    nrc

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    Since Tivo requires a service commitment now they should write a clause into the agreement, "Customer agrees not to ***** or moan when the cost of the equipment goes down. Because it will."

    I fully expected them to make a big cut in the S3 price at the same time. The fact that they did not suggests that they're willing to let them ripen on the shelves a while before they take a big loss on them.
     

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