What Comcast/Xfinity services are NOT available with a TiVo box?

Discussion in 'HD Comcast TiVo DVR (Archive)' started by angelsix, Aug 15, 2011.

  1. MagiMike

    MagiMike Member

    57
    0
    Dec 12, 2003
    Yes to both of your questions Kham007
     
  2. 1080p guy

    1080p guy New Member

    34
    0
    Mar 29, 2011
    I could care less about On Demand (I have a much higher quality (my Premiere) tuner/DVR & a WD terabyte extender) I don't need it. I am a boxing fan , so the only way to see the top fights these days is through PPV. My Premiere/Comcast on screen guide lists PPV channels at various places on the guide but when selected the dreaded "searching for signal on this cable channel" message appears & will remain indefinitely unless the channel is changed. Any hope that I can receive PPV from Comcast? Has anyone explored this ?
     
  3. blackngold75

    blackngold75 Active Member

    261
    63
    Mar 9, 2010
    Northern...
    Pretty sure you can order and watch pay-per-view on the Tivo. But, you can't order through the remote - you probably have to call in to order.
     
  4. Lrembrey

    Lrembrey New Member

    8
    0
    Dec 12, 2011
    FYI - Comcast will also hit you with a $6.00/month Cable card fee (Actually 8.50/month but they give you a $2.50/month credit for customer owned equipment.) Maybe that is waived for the 1st card? My comcast bill has Comcast DVR and Card fee(for our premier in another room). Is a 1st cable card free?
     
  5. PrimeRisk

    PrimeRisk TechnoGeek

    802
    3
    Dec 16, 2002
    Denver, CO...
    There appears to be variation around this. My first bill from Comcast did NOT match what I was promised at all. I got a horror bill that was well over $200. After an hour or so on the phone with them we got it back to what I was promised on the phone.

    Comcast is only charging me $1.50/month for Card #2 and #3 (#1 is included) and I'm getting the $2.50/month credit...so in the long run it's only costing $.50/month + $10/Month for HD which is included in your first HD receiver fee (total $10.50) to have the TiVos and I'd be paying $47.85/month ($15.95 x 3) if I used their sorry excuses for HD DVRs. I'm saving over $40/month when considering the taxes for having TiVos. Pretty good payback rate IMHO.
     
  6. Lrembrey

    Lrembrey New Member

    8
    0
    Dec 12, 2011
    I am hearing tha Comcast is very inconsistent on how they charge/bill... My local seems to hit for the $6 "outlet" fee. This is how my bill looks now with a Comcast DVR, Tivo premier and 2 DTA boxes.
    Hd/dvr Service(includes HD Technology Fee) $9.95This to me looks like thier $15.95charge - $6.00 "free device" included in triple play package.

    Digital Additional Outlet Service (includes Equipment) $8.00
    (elswhere on bill)->Customer-owned Equipment Adjustment -$2.50
    So there is a $6.00 outlet fee for cable card.

    Then I have 2 lines with $0.00 for my DTA's

    So if I look at this right I could cancel my HD DVR which saves me $9.95, get a free cable card to put into another Tivo Premier? So a second premier in essence is only $5.00 more than I pay now? (14.95/month sub for second unit from Tivo)
     
  7. PrimeRisk

    PrimeRisk TechnoGeek

    802
    3
    Dec 16, 2002
    Denver, CO...

    I'd be challenging them about the $8 for the additional outlet "with equipment"...that's what they charge to put their HD cable box on a set. You own your equipment and shouldn't have to pay that. Sometimes it just takes getting to the right person that understands how to setup your account correctly.
     
  8. Silvester

    Silvester My SmartCar

    11
    0
    Oct 4, 2007
    Jacksonville...
    Is anybody able to access Comcast "on-demand" with a TiVo Premiere?
     
  9. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

    7,114
    12
    Jul 14, 2002
    Massachusetts
    No. This is not yet an available option. This forum is for a dead product that is no longer available. It was only made available in one test market. It is a Motorola box with Tivo software running on it. That box can access OnDemand.

    Tivo and Comcast have made an announcement several months back that they would be offering Premieres.

    To put things in perspective. Tivo and Comcast made their first deal in 2005. We didn't see a product until 2008. They only released the product in one market and in 2011 they killed it off completely. Part of me expects them to call my mom and ask for it back. There can't be more than a few thousand units out there. I'd love to see actual sales figures. It was a total failure.
     
  10. TooMuchTime

    TooMuchTime New Member

    72
    0
    Jun 29, 2008
    This is why I have a computer attached to my TV as well as my TiVo. I just switch to the computer, go to Comcast, and view any On Demand contect I wish. Much easier (and less costly) than having both a Comcast DVR and a TiVo.
     
  11. Silvester

    Silvester My SmartCar

    11
    0
    Oct 4, 2007
    Jacksonville...
    I would like to do that. How do you access the Comcast on-demand channels on your computer? Do you have a TV tuner card in it? If so what brand?
     
  12. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

    7,114
    12
    Jul 14, 2002
    Massachusetts
    It is all available when you login at Comcast.com. There is also an iPad/iPhone app. I'm not sure if the apps include the full library or not.
     
  13. ZobVA

    ZobVA New Member

    8
    3
    Nov 1, 2009
    That's not entirely accurate. A Series 2 TiVo box can be used in VCR mode without a subscription. It will not have the TV Guides or searchable programming functions of course, but it can still be set to manually set up recordings by time and date.
     
  14. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

    7,114
    12
    Jul 14, 2002
    Massachusetts
    I don't believe any Series 2 units can do this except the ones with Tivo Basic.

    Some very old Series 1 units can do this.
     
  15. ajwees41

    ajwees41 Well-Known Member

    3,011
    149
    May 7, 2006
    Omaha,NE
    tivo's don't have the necessary 2way hardware, but Comcast and Cox my cable provider are going to use something called ip back channel for it.
     
  16. replaytv

    replaytv gun talk ignore list

    4,401
    1
    Feb 20, 2011
    Denver ish...
    All the Series 1 and SEries 2 Tivos all can do it, as long as the account shows 'in good standing' on the system info page. (i.e. the box was disconnected from the box before the service was discontinued ) But 'yes', buy a Tivo Pioneer or Toshiba TiVo for $50 on ebay and get Tivo Basic instead. Really worth the price over a VCR like Tivo. But I myself can't even stand using a Tivo basic box. I just miss too much the full lifetime features of season pass, wish list, and the search option. I do like the DVD burner player in the full lifetime DVD recorder Tivos. Maybe I will buy another one.

    But Tivo sees using a TiVo box like this in violation of the user agreement.

    Oh, and the clock with be off too with a Tivo without a sub, so you have to allow for that in all recordings. Why bother with it? Go ahead and get a lifetime on eBay.
     
  17. JulienPDX

    JulienPDX New Member

    26
    0
    Mar 2, 2004
    Portland,...
    i have filed an fcc complaint against comcast for this practice and name the following reasons for doing so

    1) M-Cards are capable of upstream/downstream communication; therefore there is no technological reason for this to be "blocked;" comcast is simply not enabling this because no one has called them out on it
    2) ONDemand is a "free service"that is supposed to be available to all subscribers of digital cable. Advertising in my market does not include any provisos
    3) ONDEMAND is available through Comcast's website and the XFINITY MOBILE app for Android and iOS BUT STILL REQUIRES that you have a "qualifying cable box" on your account to grant you access. This is further proof that Comast is INTENTIONALLY blocking access to ONDEMAND if you don't use their hardware.
    4) Comcast is violating the "Spirit of the law" philosophy by intentionally disabling certain features (including those stupid copy flags that don't seem to exist on their own boxes) on CableCard accounts by creating unfair and unnecessary competition between their hardware and third-party hardware; which they are required to provide equal access.

    Further, if they are so g******d worried that allowing third party hardware on their network will "hurt" their business; then maybe its time they improve what they currently offer!
     
  18. ajwees41

    ajwees41 Well-Known Member

    3,011
    149
    May 7, 2006
    Omaha,NE

    the hardware also has to be 2way
     
  19. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

    7,114
    12
    Jul 14, 2002
    Massachusetts
    I didn't realize this. What does the box have to do with any of it? Streaming from an app doesn't involve your box in any way does it?
     
  20. JulienPDX

    JulienPDX New Member

    26
    0
    Mar 2, 2004
    Portland,...
    I have tried multiple times to use ONDemand via the new iOS app for iPad and on an Android tablet. You are asked to log in with your Comcast.net credentials. I do that and even though I subscribe to at least one digital package and one premium; the app CHECKS to see if I have a cable box. Since I don't, it doesn't allow me access. Further, I can't access the independent HBO2Go app either because Comcast doesn't "validate" my subscription to them.
     

Share This Page