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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Toddifer, Nov 9, 2017.

  1. Nov 9, 2017 #1 of 15
    Toddifer

    Toddifer New Member

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    Moved my Premiere XL with lifetime I won years ago from TiVo to a guest bedroom that had my TiVo mini that was rarely used. Thought it would be wiser to use the mini as my primary unit in my living room since it has voice capabilities now with the new TiVo Vox remote.

    This new setup is so much faster navigating menu screens. Picture quality is much crisper compared to going directly from the Premiere to my living room tv. Doesn't make sense to me since the source is now originating from my guest bedroom Premiere and going MoCa to my living room. I just wished I had setup my units like this years ago....
     
  2. Nov 9, 2017 #2 of 15
    Toddifer

    Toddifer New Member

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    Starting to have a concern about the TiVo Vox remote I ordered today for my mini. Everything I read said it will work with my mini. However, the feed for the mini is from a Premiere and not a Bolt. Will I get the voice features being advertised?
     
  3. Nov 9, 2017 #3 of 15
    krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Do you have another DVR beside the Premiere XL that is the host DVR for the Mini? (I'm wondering how your Mini could be using the new Hydra/gen4 UI.)
     
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  4. Nov 9, 2017 #4 of 15
    krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    1) I'm guessing that you don't have a Premiere XL if it's your only DVR; it'd have to be a 4-tuner Premiere 4 or XL4, since the 2-tuner models are not supported as host DVRs for Minis.

    2) As for the VOX Remote, the Mini would need to be running the Hydra/gen4 UI for the voice control features to work, and the Mini's UI is determined by its host DVR -- and Premieres are not eligible for Hydra, so no Hydra or voice controls for your Mini. (You'd need a Roamio or BOLT running Hydra as the Mini's host DVR.)
     
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  5. Nov 9, 2017 #5 of 15
    Toddifer

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    Mini is not showing new Hydra UI. First time I have heard of it was reading these forums today. Thank you for your explanation. I guess I will be returning the Vox remote when I get it. I wish TiVo had provided more marketing details that the Vox remote voice features may or may not work with all minis depending on it's host. Think they will be getting quite a few returns.
     
  6. Nov 9, 2017 #6 of 15
    ajwees41

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    this has been known since launch that hydra was needed for voice
     
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  7. Nov 9, 2017 #7 of 15
    Toddifer

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    You are correct. I have another Premiere in the house that is a 4 tuner unit. It is actually the host and not the XL.
     
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  8. Nov 9, 2017 #8 of 15
    Toddifer

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    People who read these forums on a regular basis would know. Nothing is mentioned about Hydra when you read the description about the Vox remote with Bluetooth adapter on websites selling them. It just states is will work with TiVo Minis. Somewhat true, but without the voice functions.
     
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  9. Nov 9, 2017 #9 of 15
    krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    Amazon's listing includes this bullet buried in the Feature details section:

    On-screen user interface must be upgraded to the New TiVo Experience for voice-control functionality. Upgrade details provided upon remote installation.​

    ... which, yeah, doesn't provide a full picture re: requirements.
     
  10. Nov 10, 2017 #10 of 15
    TiVo_Ted

    TiVo_Ted Well-Known Member

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    This is a good catch. On our website, we say this:

    Works with:
    TiVo BOLT, BOLT VOX, BOLT+ and Mini VOX
    TiVo Roamio DVRs (Pro, Plus and OTA) and TiVo Mini when combined with Bluetooth® dongle (included)
    TiVo VOX Remote does NOT work with any prior models of TiVo DVRs.

    I have asked them to add a 4th line:
    Note: Use with TiVo MINI requires Roamio or BOLT as the Host DVR
     
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  11. Nov 10, 2017 #11 of 15
    TiVo_Ted

    TiVo_Ted Well-Known Member

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    I have also asked them to update our Amazon and Best Buy pages to reflect this as well. Sorry for the confusion!
     
  12. Nov 10, 2017 #12 of 15
    Phil_C

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    Can a new Bolt Vox be reverted to the Gen3 UI?

    Maybe "revert" is the wrong word in this case. Information in this forum seems to say that when a new Bolt Vox is first powered up it will automatically install Hydra. Can Gen3 then be installed on the box, even though Gen3 was never on it originally? Can this be done with a "downgrade" app or by other means?

    I'd like to buy a Bolt Vox as an upgrade to my XL4, but I am NOT ready for Hydra until Hydra is ready for me. Thanks.
     
  13. Nov 11, 2017 #13 of 15
    scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    Very helpful. Thank you.
    :rolleyes:
     
  14. Nov 11, 2017 #14 of 15
    JACKASTOR

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    Do now. Deleted
     
  15. Nov 11, 2017 #15 of 15
    TiVo_Ted

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    Yes, you can run the downgrade app as soon as it's setup.
     
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