We've begun updating TiVo Stream for out-of-home streaming

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by TiVoMargret, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. tatergator1

    tatergator1 Well-Known Member

    Mar 27, 2008
    Columbus, Ohio
    Cellular streaming is not currently supported due to standards imposed by Apple. The current implementation of Tivo's OOH streaming is not able to achieve the minimum bit rate required by Apple to approve apps that stream video.

    Tivo has indicated that they will eventually be able to achieve that minimum bit rate and allow OOH streaming via Cellular. The best work-around is to instead choose to download, and then start watching the show after a minute or two to buffer, as downloads are supported via Cellular.
  2. MikePA1

    MikePA1 New Member

    Nov 15, 2013
    Many posts doesn't equal wisdom.
  3. msu2k

    msu2k New Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Holt, MI
    I finally got my Stream set up last night. It's working well on my home network with my iPad. I didn't try it on my iPhone though while I was at home and thought I'd give it a shot today at work.

    Did I also need to run the iOS app's Setup Streaming on my iPhone as well while connected to my home network? I didn't, and I'm assuming that's why I can't get OOH streaming to work today at work. I was thinking that setup was just to get the Stream box itself up and running I guess, and not the iOS app.

    I have a Premier XL4 if that helps.
  4. tatergator1

    tatergator1 Well-Known Member

    Mar 27, 2008
    Columbus, Ohio
    Yes, you need to run setup on each device while at home to be properly authorized.
  5. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    Apr 17, 2000
    I wonder why they go through all that trouble only to restrict content by CCI anyway? If they're only going to allow streaming/downloads of unprotected content then why require in home registration first? It's not like they're protecting the TiVo. You can still log into your account and delete recordings, rearrange SP, schedule stuff, etc... without doing that. The only thing they're protecting is streaming and they only allow streaming of unprotected content anyway so what's the point?

    Maybe this is a sign that they are working on getting approval for OOH streaming of protected shows?
  6. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2006
    I think it's related to the Proxy server. Looks like perhaps they are building a table of clients and corresponding Stream servers that the Proxy manages. Going through the in home client setup then adds to the Proxy managed table. I would guess if/when they change to uPNP that will no longer be necessary. Personally I would be happiest with no Proxy and manual port forwarding but understand why TiVo doesn't like that option.
  7. Austin Bike

    Austin Bike Member

    Feb 9, 2003
    I can see a couple of reasons:

    1. reduce the probability of someone accessing your account. It's an extra level of protection. (In the enterprise network world we call this "machine to machine" authorization).

    2. It reduces the probability of people "sharing" their cable. I rarely ever watch live tv. Most of the time I am watching recordings. If my friend had a tivo, I could potentially swipe shows from their tivo and not get cable. Or ask them to record shows for me. But making me physically go to their house and authorize through their network adds one more level of security and is a reminder that I am stealing from them.

    Also, if there is ever a "pay per view" function, you'd want that security.
  8. dslunceford

    dslunceford Well-Known Member

    Oct 19, 2000
    No. VA/D.C.
    OOH streaming has been really inconsistent and unreliable for me when traveling on business. It will work just fine, then suddenly I'll get a "problem connecting to your streaming device" message which leaves me dead in the water until I return home and can re-set up streaming while on the home network. The app sees the Roamio (and Minis), and I can delete shows and set up recordings.
  9. eboydog

    eboydog Just TiVo'ing.....

    Mar 23, 2006
    Dang, saw the message thread and thought perhaps Android support was out!
  10. dslunceford

    dslunceford Well-Known Member

    Oct 19, 2000
    No. VA/D.C.
    Sorry! Has anyone else seen connection errors like I have?
  11. Mar 5, 2014 #171 of 171

    ellinj Seems Very Friendly TCF Club

    Feb 26, 2002
    I get this on occasion, but I am able to rerun setup while away and it still works. This is with a stand alone stream, Initially I thought running setup outside the home would not be possible, but guess as long as the device is already identified with the stream even redoing setup still works.

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