Westworld "The Mother of Exiles" S03E04 April 5, 2020 *spoilers*

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  1. vertigo235

    vertigo235 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    For reasons unknown yet, Delores did bring back Bernard, so we are to believe that it is Bernard in Bernard's body.

    But then again it could be Delores impersonating Bernard.

    We really don't know for sure based on the rules they have established for this season.
     
  2. pgogborn

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    Although I think some of the rules they established for last season are being brought forward to this season.

    Maeve diverged from Delores partly because of love for her daughter.

    I think Charlotte Hale Dolores will diverge from Delores Delores because of love for her son and perhaps she will use her riot control robots to save his human life in a more breath taking way than Doleres used her posse against humans.

    Serec wanting to control human destiny is an analog of Head of Narrative and Design Lee Sizemore writing scripts for the hosts. I think he could become a better human in the same way as Lee did including his interactions with Maeve.

    For now I do not believe Rehobaum's physical location is where it appears to be in the same way there was uncertainty about the location of key objects in previous seasons.
     
  3. madscientist

    madscientist Deregistered Snoozer

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    Yes, certainly Bernard went back to get Maeve. He just ran across Stubbs during the search and fixed him up. But, he and Stubbs couldn't find Maeve. That's because she was already off the island, in Serac's lab.

    They tried to fool us, by having Maeve in WarWorld and we thought that Bernard would find her there... but WarWorld was entirely virtual, it wasn't on the island at all. Oh yea, I forgot: they did find Maeve's body in the "morgue" on the island and discovered her pearl had been removed.

    Doloris brought out Bernard's pearl, then created a Bernard body in his old house and put his pearl in it, and set him loose. We don't know really why she did that. That happened right at the end of last season.
     
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  4. vertigo235

    vertigo235 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    "Everyone has their own role to play"

    Whatever that means :D
     
  5. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    That whole episode was structured to make us think Bernard was about to run into Maeve. Until the end when we learned Maeve was in a simulation and her Pearl was in some kind of lab. That's when she took control of that robot and broke her Pearl out, only to then be caught by Serac's henchmen.
    We do know that Bernard's Pearl is different from the others because we saw it early in episode 3 and it had some redness to it while the others were all silver. According to one podcast I listened to, that redness indicates it's got data from a real human (Arnold) vs the totally silver Pearls that are for pure hosts. What we don't know is whether Dolores put some of herself into Bernard's pearl, making him some kind of hybrid of Arnold/Bernard/Dolores or if he's just the same Bernarnold we saw in previous seasons.
     
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  6. gweempose

    gweempose Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    So my suspicion that all the silver pearls were copies of Dolores has officially been confirmed by this episode. I mentioned this theory in the s3, e1 thread, but now I'm now kind of regretting that. It's a pretty big spoiler, even though I had no idea at the time that my theory was true. That's one of the negatives of watching a show like this several weeks behind everyone else. You miss out on the real-time conversations as people try to unravel the mysteries. Should I delete my post in the other thread?
     
  7. pgogborn

    pgogborn Well-Known Member

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    I vote No.
     
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  8. tivotvaddict

    tivotvaddict CreativelyChallenged

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    No need, you were speculating.Turns out your speculation was on point. You weren't the only one who thought this might be the case. Not a spoiler.
     
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  9. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Plus, most people who are interested in this show will have already seen this episode before reading gweempose's speculation in that other thread. I doubt there will be many people who are watching the show on a delay and reading each episode thread before moving on to the next episode.
     
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  10. JohnB1000

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    That's exactly what I usually do.
     
  11. tivotvaddict

    tivotvaddict CreativelyChallenged

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    Respectfully disagree. That's exactly how I watched Breaking Bad and the first couple of seasons of GOT (I was late to the party on both). Important to keep the community free of spoilers as stated in the forum rules, so I appreciate @gweempose bringing up the question. :)
     
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    ..... and when I said (in another thread) that when this season began it appeared it was going to be much easier to understand than the previous seasons, but now I find it every bit as abstruse as in the past, someone had the temerity to ask: "What is it you find hard to understand?". JUST READ THIS THREAD :D :D
     
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  13. gweempose

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    The only reason I asked if I should remove my post is because nobody else had mentioned this theory until the thread for the third episode. I then came along, weeks later, and dropped it into the first episode thread. Even though my intentions were pure, I started thinking that it could potentially diminish the impact of the reveal for someone like me who was late to the game. Obviously, this is always a risk we take when reading these types of threads, but I now have the benefit of hindsight just a few days later and know for a fact that my guess was correct. Since I was the last person to post in that thread, and nobody has responded to me yet, it would be easy enough to just remove that part of my post.

    The whole thing makes me wonder if a person should even bother posting theories to threads like this well after the fact, since you can't really be part of the organic discussion. This is why I much prefer to watch shows like Westworld right when they first air. Unfortunately, I watch so much TV that I sometimes get backlogged. I'm just glad that by tonight I will be all caught up for the finale this Sunday. :)
     
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