WeaKnees Interactive Online TiVo Upgrade Instructions

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  1. Feb 7, 2004 #61 of 1023
    su_A_ve

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    Ok,

    After doing the OfficeMax deal, I upgraded my HDVR2 with a WD 120 Gb ($25 AR/AC)

    Mostly used the Interactive Tivo Upgrade instructions, but was not too clear about one section, so ended up double checking with Hindsale's.

    I used the "HDVR2 Replace ONE drive" and all YES options (BK, FAT32, XP, CD, Save Recs).

    The problem is after making the backup, the instructions say:

    The software will scan your drive for a few moments. You should see a progress indicator as the backup proceeds. Once the backup is successful, shut down the PC if your destination drive isn't connected by using CTRL-ALT-DELETE and waiting until the Linux has halted. Then boot again as before with the destination drive connected, and enter the following with hdX as your destination drive:

    mount /dev/hda1 /mnt

    Then:

    mfsbackup -Tao - /dev/hdX (/dev/hdY) | mfsrestore -s 127 -xzpi - /dev/hdZ (/dev/hdZZ)


    What's confusing is that it says you should 'enter the following with hdX as your destination drive'

    Well, if you do that, YOU'LL MIGHT HOSE the TIVO DRIVE !!! In fact, why do you want to mount the FAT 32 partition ? In this scenario, we'll be copying everything from the old drive to the new...

    The WD seems a tad louder, but I guess it needs getting used to.

    My .02..
     
  2. Feb 20, 2004 #62 of 1023
    weaknees

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    su_A_ve -

    Sorry for the delay, but we fixed the wording to make this more clear.

    Thanks for posting!

    Michael
     
  3. Feb 20, 2004 #63 of 1023
    weaknees

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    Based on a few notes in various places here on the forums by Robert S, we conducted some informal tests of various backup compression levels comparing both times and resulting backup sizes. Robert S was, again, right on the money here.

    The table with the results is posted on the Upgrade Instructions blog here:

    http://tivo-upgrade.blogspot.com

    So, as mentioned there, we've changed all of the compression levels from -9 on the site to -1, since that's really the best number in all respects.

    Michael
     
  4. Feb 20, 2004 #64 of 1023
    Rcrew

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    Just a thanks for all your hard work, and keeping this guide free. It's a great tool.

    Are there plans to include 2nd upgrade instructions, IE: going from A & B drive units back to A only? Or are there just too many variables. I can see myself eventually desiring to change my GXCEB0T from 40gb A and 80gb B to a single 160gb A.

    I've been doing a few free upgrades for forum members in my area, using the Hinsdale guide. It's still slightly intimidating, although a great reference.

    Your tool is right on!
     
  5. Mar 17, 2004 #65 of 1023
    weaknees

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    OK - two more changes:

    -changed recommended Maxtor drive unlocking software to DiskUtil

    -added a "Clear and delete everything" step for situations that need it (based on a question)

    Michael
     
  6. Mar 20, 2004 #66 of 1023
    Kylep

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    I just added two drives to the Hughes SD-DVR40 using these instructions. While it may seem obvious, I didn't realize you HAD to keep your C drive hooked up in order to do the upgrade. The instructions stress that you need to keep the CD hooked up if you want to boot to it but didn't really say anything about the hard drive.

    Since it was easier not to have it hooked up (no moving of jumpers, easier cable access) I was trying to run the commands without it. Needless to say I had problems.

    Of course, logic dictates you would need to be storing the backup somewhere, but not everyone subscribes to this whole logic thing. (I actually thought it was either the floppy or in memory)

    Perhaps it's not a crucial point, but I thought i'd make the observation.

    Thanks Weaknees!
     
  7. Mar 30, 2004 #67 of 1023
    MighTiVo

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    Just wanted to say THANKS for giving back to the community!
    A DIY information service like this really makes it easy to do bunsiness with you even if all I buy is the breeze.
     
  8. Mar 31, 2004 #68 of 1023
    Joey P

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    Just added an 80gb b drive to my 60 hour series 2 and was only slightly toubled at one point. Like someone else said I wasn't totally sure if I had to keep my C drive in (and if I wasn't going to make a backup, I would have unhooked it, just to eliminate the chance of messing it up), anyways, I hooked my TiVo drive and the new drive as secondary master and slave. I booted the computer from the disk I made (the *.iso image on the CD-Rom wouldn't work for me). It went through it's thing and came to the prompt, I looked for several minutes back and forth and couldn't find the lines you were talking about. I was thinking about just going on anyways, but I thought, that there was a chance I had the drives backwards. I turned off the computer, switched the cable and flipped it back on. As it was booting I saw the lines you mentioned, and the drive sizes were correct. BUT when it came to the prompt and I scrolled back up to look at them again I couldn't find them at all. Strange. Other then that it went fairly smoothly, the only trouble I had was the drive variables you used were a little confusing at times but I figured it all out (this may have to do with the fact that I know NOTHING whatsoever about Linux, so what's confusing to me, maybe something pointless like back in the days of DOS when my dad would copy directions word for word of the installation book, so at the a:\prompt he would type "a:\setup.exe <enter>" ...(No dad just the "setup.exe" part, really))
     
  9. Apr 1, 2004 #69 of 1023
    tomlouie

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    I had the same experience. As the machine was booting up, the lines (hda, hdb, etc) would tell you the capacity of the disk, but after the bootup has completed and you scroll back, the lines only tell you the make & model of the hd.

    I noticed one problem with the instructions for:

    AT&T 230040
    Replace with One Drive
    Do not want a backup
    Do not have FAT
    Am using XP or 2k
    Using boot floppy
    Save recordings
    Not older than 2.5
    Not moving software

    The instructions say to type:
    mfsbackup -Tao - /dev/hdX (/dev/hdY) | mfsrestore -s 127 -xzpi - /dev/hdZ (/dev/hdZZ)

    However, it doesn't make clear that /dev/hdX is the old TiVo drive, and /dev/hdZ is the new one. While it could be figured out in the context, nervous newbies need explanation & confirmation. :)

    That said, the instructions were great! My 40GB took 5 hours to copy all the recordings, but it all went fine!

    Thank you thank you thank you!

    Tom
     
  10. Apr 6, 2004 #70 of 1023
    weaknees

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    OK - I've changed all of the drive attributions to follow this logic:

    hdW=FAT 32 drive
    hdX=Original TiVo drive
    hdY=Second Original TiVo drive (B drive) in two-drive units
    hdZ=Target (New) TiVo A drive
    hdZZ=Second Target (New) TiVo drive (B drive) in two-drive upgrades

    I'll try to color code these also when I get a chance . . .

    Michael
     
  11. Apr 6, 2004 #71 of 1023
    tomlouie

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    Michael, I looked at the new instructions, it looks great. Thank you!

    Tom
     
  12. Apr 6, 2004 #72 of 1023
    Tempest

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    Great guide, upgrade from single 80gig to a single 160gig and worked great. Saving my original hd in case of failure. Probably add another 120 gig drive down the road.
     
  13. Apr 18, 2004 #73 of 1023
    Dirac

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    I noticed no Samsung SIR-S4040R upgrade instructions option. I would guess the instructions would be identical to the SIR-S4120R, with the possible exception of the drive size affecting the backup options (i.e. replacement A must be at least as large as original A). I have never upgraded a Series 2 so I just want to make sure I'm not missing something.
     
  14. Apr 18, 2004 #74 of 1023
    weaknees

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    Yes, they are identical. We'll try to add them soon.

    Michael
     
  15. Apr 19, 2004 #75 of 1023
    mattn2

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    Something is amiss -
    TiVo 140060
    Replace w/ 2 drives
    NO Backup
    NO FAT
    NO XP
    CD
    Ignore recordings
    Newer 2.5
    No Move

    It goes into ... issue backup and restore commands
    ... backup command to a FAT mount point.
    (what??? I want no backup - No FAT)
    Then the "restore" is not a pipe - but from the NON-existant FAT mount.

    (edit) The pipe command shows up if I choose "to 1 drive"

    (edit) same problem appears for all Series 2 SA TiVo's

    # Matt
     
  16. Apr 28, 2004 #76 of 1023
    weaknees

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    OK - that problem is now fixed.

    In addition, I added the Samsung S4040R to the matrix.

    Michael
     
  17. Apr 29, 2004 #77 of 1023
    Tivo_60

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    Michael.....I plan on relacing the orig hdd in my Hughes HDVR2. In reading your instructions f/this model, there is one statement that confuses me :

    "Remove the power cable and gray IDE ribbon cable from the hard drive. Also, remove the ribbon cable from the motherboard. You may not re-use this cable, but you should keep it either way"

    Further down, towards the end of the instructions, it states:

    "Install drive onto bracket with the four T-15 screws. Connect the IDE/power cables to the drive on the bracket".

    Why can't you reuse the ribbon cable and what do you replace it with?
    Am I missing something here? TIA
     
  18. Apr 29, 2004 #78 of 1023
    weaknees

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    We mean "may" as in: in some cases you do, and in some cases you don't. In your case, you will.

    Sorry for the confusion.

    Michael
     
  19. Apr 29, 2004 #79 of 1023
    Tivo_60

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    OK thanks Michael. I read it as "you may not reuse this cable!" A little too literal I guess and I do want to do this carefully so that I get it right the first time. Great instructions BTW.
     
  20. Apr 29, 2004 #80 of 1023
    weaknees

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    Yeah, I'll try to re-word that. It's on the list!

    Michael
     

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