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Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by weaknees, Nov 4, 2003.
The Pioneer and Toshiba TiVo/DVD units aren't in the guide yet. Is that coming soon?
I'm not sure if I'm sleepy and missing something, but I think I found a problem with the HDVR2 "add a drive" instructions. It goes in to great detail about how to attach the existing drive to my computer, but doesn't seem to talk at all about attaching the second, new drive.
Right - that was missing - good catch. Fixed now!
OK - we've added to the list of options the ability to get customized instructions to restore from a backup file. So if you have a backup file on your hard drive that you made, a CD-ROM, or you've downloaded one from the internet, you can now get customized instructions on how to load that back on to one or two new drives.
FYI - Western Digital seems to have pulled "dlgchk" from their site. We now host it on our upgrade instructions site. Once you pull up your customized instructions, you'll get a link to the file in case you need it. If you want direct access to it, it's here:
I like the idea of interactive instructions but I have some questions on your linux commands listed for a "replace with one drive" procedure for a SA HDR112 with >2.5 software:
I noticed that the mount command is listed as:
mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
But the Hinsdale instructions show it as:
mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos
Are both correct? Is there a reason to use one over the other?
I noticed that there was no umount command during the procedure, is that correct?
Also, the interactive instructions list the backup command as:
mfsbackup -f 9999 -6so /mnt/dos/tivo.bak /dev/hdc
(Hinsdale shows this command for series 2 tivos)
But the Hinsdale instructions list it as: (for series 1 SA's)
mfsbackup -6so /mnt/dos/tivo.bak /dev/hdc
What is the purpose of "-f 9999" and are these commands interchangable? Is one preferrable over the other?
I would like to recommend that you include a warning where ever you mention qunlock telling people that it can hose up their hard drives if used incorrectly. I believe the warning is included in the Hinsdale instructions but just in case the upgrader doesn't see it there you might save them some grief...( I am still wondering why anyone still uses qunlock when dlgchk.exe is easier, and as far as I know it will never hose up a hard drive? Does qunlock do something that dlgchk doesn't do?)
(dlgchk.exe is included on the western digital floppies that come with new hard drives but they call it bios check.)
Hinsdale creates a new directory to use as a mount point and then mounts on it, weaknees just mounts on the existing /mnt directory. As long as the path to the backup file is correct (ie, no /dos in the weaknees version), the effect is the same. Some of the original TiVo upgrade procedures required you to have a TiVo partition and a DOS partition mounted simultaneously. Even though that's no longer required, Hinsdale hasn't changed his command lines.
Failing to umount before you switch off the PC could seriously damage your C: drive! If you shutdown with Ctrl-Alt-Del and wait for the PC to reboot, Linux should unmount everything for you.
The backup commands are different for the Series 1 and 2 TiVoes. If you forget -f 9999 on a Series 2 your backup will not include the backgrounds for the menu screens.
qunlock is sufficiently ubiquitous that people need to know how to use it safely. It's easier to use than dlgchk, but a lot more dangerous. Ideally we'd get Frey's patch rewritten to unlock the Maxtor drives and get Tiger to make a new MFS Tools 2.0 with that on it. That doesn't seem very likely at the moment, and until that happens, people are still going to blow up their drives with qunlock, whatever we say here.
We've rewritten our notes to stress that DLGCHK is the preferred option over qunlock.
Added support for the new Philips DSR704 and DSR708. If you have one of those units, they are basically identical inside to the Hughes HDVR2, Philips DSR7000 and the other units. Some of these new units have the warranty stickers.
Cosmetically, the fronts of these units are different (busier?) but they do have access doors for the cards, like the HDVR2 and SD-DVR units.
Final note: these units have a new service number, so other software shouldn't be used on them.
Should there be a question in this process like:
Have you previously upgraded your TiVo?
If yes, what have you done:
- replaced the original single A drive with a larger one
- added a second drive
That would address problems / questions like this one:
which is unclear to me if the current upgrade instructions presented here do.
WHEN DO YOU START CHARGING FOR THIS "SERVICE" ?
I cannot thank you enough for this.......... I had really thought of re-writing the Hinsdale How-To to make it more specific to DirecTV TiVo units. Of course, I printed out the mega page Hinsdale document, downloaded all the files, got a highlighter and finally marked the sections important to me.
I'll go run and try this with my SDVR40 and DSR7000 soon after things look like they are bug free and fee free.
Many thanks to Weaknees and Hinsdale and everyone else involved.
Would this be ok to post at DBSForums.com in the PVR forums?
Jim M -
I assume your first question was in jest - but we intend this to remain free.
And you should absolutely post the link wherever you'd like (it's even preformatted on the home page). We pretty much focus our forum efforts here, but we're happy to have you spread the word!
It looks really useful but I can't find any reference to the Thomson models in the UK
We've taken the site status from "Beta" to final. Thanks to everyone for all of the comments here and the emails. We believe we have ironed out all of the issues, but as always, some probably remain and we'll keep combing.
In addition, software and best practices do change, and we'll continually update this site for these reasons, as new TiVos come out, and as we can add features. We'll try to update this thread with those notes.
As always, please feel free to contact us here or through the email on the site or at email@example.com with other issues or questions.
Working on it. Can anyone give us a link to a site that has pictures of the inside of those units? We'd like to get detailed hardware installation instructions and we just don't have access to those units.
Any chance you'll be adding instructions for the new Pioneer units? The 57H is the one i'm interested in?
I can take some photos while the lid's off and e-mail them.
Let me know asap what shots you need
Sorry for the delay (just trying to keep up with orders here).
If you still have yet to open the unit, a photo of just the inside would probably do the trick. Email it to firstname.lastname@example.org and we'll go from there.
This guide is SWEET! I just scored a free 40GB upgrade, and was poking around here to see if there was any condensed instructions for simply adding a 40GB secondary drive. I love it!