Watchmen - S01E01 "It's Summer and We're Running Out Of Ice" 10/20/2019 *spoilers*

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  1. TAsunder

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    Can you elaborate on what you mean (in spoiler tags if needed)? It's been just long enough that I don't recall what you mean from the comic.
     
  2. logic88

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    In issue 11, Veidt told his three helpers that their work was finished and he had something to celebrate. When they gathered in the bio-dome, Veidt served them drinks and began his back story. As he was telling the story, the men sat stone-faced and didn't respond. Once Veidt finished his story, it turns out that he had poisoned all three men and then as he left, he opened up the bio-dome to the arctic elements.
     
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  3. Saturn_V

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    The more I watch the Veidt scenes, the more I'm convinced he's trapped in a world Dr. Manhattan made. Those aren't his clones, they're life that Jon Osterman created. And the food that's unpalatable (anniversary cake and tree-grown tomatoes) could come from a being divorced of human perceptions like taste.
     
  4. TAsunder

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    Not sure if that needs spoiler tags since it's speculation unrelated to the comic material he quoted, but I'll continue with it.

    So, like Watson's early recipes? If this theory is true, then it may be Westworld-esque since we have seen Manhattan destroy his creations in the show already.
     
  5. Tony_T

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    I’m reading the comic now (first time). Up to that part. Chap IX, pg 14, “Black Unrest”
     
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  6. markb

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    I've watched up to Chapter 3 of the motion comic. It seems like very little has happened in each chapter. I assume this picks up?
     
  7. Saturn_V

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    it's Slow burn. I didn't perk up until the Rorshach issue (#6 "The Abyss Gazes Also")

    But Readers Digest rules. You're getting the main bullets, not all the subtext Alan Moore is famous for.
     
  8. Tony_T

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    Interesting that the dates of the comic in the later chapters , (i.e. October 31, November 2) is coinciding almost directly to when I’m reading it now.
     
  9. Tony_T

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  10. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    That's from the original 1985 graphic novel, right? Given that in the Watchmen universe, Nixon was still president in 85, I wonder if the guys who wrote this intended for that RR to mean Ronald Reagan. And then when Lindelof adapted it, he just decided to use that clue to mean something totally different, yet similar (actor in the WH).
     
  11. Rob Helmerichs

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    I don't know, that picture looks a lot more like Redford c. 1985 than Reagan...
     
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  12. Saturn_V

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    Reagan wouldn't have ascended in the Watchmen universe. I think it was always meant to be Robert Redford.
     
  13. Tony_T

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    Headline said “ Veidt Officially Declared Dead”, so dead per statute of limitations, no body found”
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  14. Tony_T

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    Yes, the 2019 Kindle edition, so not sure if edited, but a few pages later...

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  15. logic88

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    From Absolute Watchmen (2005 Edition).

    Edit: Tony_T beats me by a minute!
     
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  16. Tony_T

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    ...and looks like it’s he’s retiring... ;)

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  17. Tony_T

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    I just finished the comic and I’m re-watching episode one and I’m seeing a lot of easter eggs (just noticed a poster for National Bank with “Dollar Bill”)
     
  18. Tony_T

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    So Veidt is writing a play (a tragedy, in five acts) called “The Watchmaker Son” (Dr Manhattan) and has leading parts for his maid in his butler (who just made a Pocket watch for Veidt’s anniversary from his drawings). Hmmmmm....
     
  19. Tony_T

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    I just watched the movie, and
    the movie changed it to Reagan
     
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  20. Saturn_V

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    And replacing Redford (D) with Reagan (R) in the movie makes no sense- especially since term limits were repealed in the Watchmen universe. It assumes that either
    a.) Nixon would not run again in 88' or
    b.) Reagan would challenge a sitting president from the *same* party, running to Nixon's right.

    According to Peteypedia, we do know that the Republicans held the executive branch for 24 years, 1969-1992. What's not known for certain is whether Nixon was president that whole time, but I'm betting he was.
     

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