Advertisements Since the only way, it would seem, to figure out the true percentage of users impacted by any decision made by D* would be for D* to call all their customers and ask them, as this forum certainly is not representative of their customer base, this cannot happen, so it all boils down to...if you don't want it (whatever that "it" happens to be), don't get it (or dump it). My decision right now, as I will be moving shortly, is...do I keep D* and upgrade to the HR20, or go with Comcast and the Series 3/Moto Box w/Tivo. The pluses and minuses for me are: Plus: D* has far more HD content, their prices and plans are far cheaper than Comcast, at least in the Boston area, and I've had D* for 7 years and haven't had any problems. The HR20 is a 50/50 gamble. Hard to tell - the 50 SP limit is confining, but liveable. Minuses: Rain/snow fade. Right now, the first channels to go during a storm are the HDs. I've had the dish realigned several times, and the best signal is in the mid 80s. It's a real pain. With Comcast, the pluses are: No rain fade. A better quality picture (from what I've seen, at least compared to my current HR 10). And the TiVO, either Series 3 or their box with the TiVO upgrade. Minuses for Comcast: That would also be the TiVO, because I"m not sure just how much support Comcast will give for it. I've heard horror stories about Cable Cards with the S3, and who knows what the Comcast TiVO download will entail. Plus, the prices for the package I currently have with D* would be ridiculously expensive. No one can make the final decision but me, and I would say that it's the same for anyone else who bitches and moans about the HR 20. D* isn't about to change anything on the basis of what they see on this or any forum.