WARNING - Before you go in for the HR20

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by rrr22777, Oct 14, 2007.

  1. Oct 15, 2007 #41 of 133
    innocentfreak

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    LOL yeah I know I am bad. Luckily some of the shows are ones where I am able to fast forward through such as Mythbusters, Future Weapons, or Dirty Jobs where I only watch the segments that interest me. To think I was actually worse when I didn't have Tivo and would occasionally watch 4 shows at the same time. My friends never understood how I could keep up with the storylines. Then again the same people never understood how I could read 3 books in a weekend.

    Scary thing is my main Dtivos are 100 hours each and I have yet to have a show delete on me. Between multitasking and being an insomniac it all works out. :)
     
  2. Oct 15, 2007 #42 of 133
    innocentfreak

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    As far as schedueling a new season pass it is near instant, as quick as the R-15.
    I couldn't tell you how long it takes my Tivo to update since I only do it once a week on the weekend to adjust for the next week and even then I do it just before I am going to do something else where I wouldn't be watching tv anyway.
     
  3. Oct 15, 2007 #43 of 133
    newsposter

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    wow what a fast box...once they get my 110 issue hammered out, can't wait to start learning about it. I am not 'using' it now since i think tuner 2 is bad. It's so fast at recording i dont know if i set a SP or not lol.
     
  4. Oct 15, 2007 #44 of 133
    MrBigglesworth

    MrBigglesworth Tivo Addict

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    I came from an HR10-250(its in the bedroom) to the HR 20 and have yet to have any missed shows at all after a week of solid use.

    Havent hit 50 passes yet, but that does cheese me a bit. Im trying to keep it trimmed as possible to actual shows I watch and not some of the fluff I had previously. Im sure after a while they will raise or eliminate the limit.
     
  5. Oct 15, 2007 #45 of 133
    Citivas

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    Some households don't revolve around the guy hogging the remote and the fancy DVR... My household has five TV watchers who all have different shows. It is EASY to exceed 50 season passes (especially when a bunch of ththem are kid shows) and still have a busy life off the couch...
     
  6. Oct 15, 2007 #46 of 133
    gio1269

    gio1269 "HR20 Army"

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    Again it's not a design flaw. Maybe D* does not think that anyone needs more than 50 SP and I agree.

    I saying should there even be a limit? if some someone wants a 1000SP.
    Maybe they took that number and figured out that X amount of shows = x hrs + 24 hrs a day + avg HD space and figured most of their users won't need more than 50 before filling up there DVR. I don't know I did not design it. But to call t a flaw is stupid.

    Again maybe in reality a 50 limit makes sense?

    Look a few "sheep" will follow and use nothing but tivo until they or it dies off.

    That's fine. But if you want a HD-DVR form D* the HR20 is it. The GUI is not Tivo but it's a damn good DVR with some better features than tivo. Now do those features negate the loss of Tivo features? that's up to each of us.

    Judging by what's left of this board I say the HR20 won.

    I been lurking for almost 3 yrs. This board is now about bitchin about the HR20, my HR10 died or crapped out.

    But it's time for most, most people to move on. Those who only care about OTA and SD will be fine. Hopefully that new update will solve off the issues and glut of problems with your ancient DVR.

    Mine is still active for OTA and SD, but it's flaking out and is hardly used.
     
  7. Oct 15, 2007 #47 of 133
    krs7272

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    I agree feldon not what it used to be.
     
  8. Oct 15, 2007 #48 of 133
    rrr22777

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    Try getting out of your florida retirement community. You just proved my point. No one eats those anymore either.
     
  9. Oct 16, 2007 #49 of 133
    Sir_winealot

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    Ironically, we've just thrown in the towel on our HR20. I've had it with the missed recordings, and the rest of my family hates the thing and pretty much avoids using it.

    I love the fast menus, the quick recording, the mpeg4 HD channels are great ...but I can't tolerate it missing recording SL's (series links).

    Granted, it's not like it happens every night: but the every-now-and-then occurance is enough where it's maddening as it seems to miss the programming *I* enjoy the most. It'll go weeks recording beautifully, and then 'boink!' an error occurs and the program isn't there (I see from the other forum that I'm not alone with this).

    I'll give D* some (more) time to iron out some of these sporadic problems ...as some folks have absolutely no recording problems and it doesn't miss a show, while others are like me and the unit lacks consistency.

    If we had the available cabling we'd keep both the HR20 and HR10 hooked up on the same TV, but it's one or the other unfortunately.
     
  10. Oct 16, 2007 #50 of 133
    Jebberwocky!

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    twinkies - good eating :D
     
  11. Oct 16, 2007 #51 of 133
    joed32

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    It's kind of like watching a soap opera. I come back every day to see everyone argue about the DVRs, I can't help it. I have both and use both a lot and actually like both, but I stay out of the arguments. If I can, without making anyone angry, give my opinion just from my own little perspective. My favorite thing about the HR20 is to be able to put in standby with one touch. Second is being able to delete something while it is still recording with dash dash. With the HR10 my favorite difference is "wish list". I love the Tivo wish list. The second thing I like best about the Tivo is the "search" functions. If I had a choice between the two it would be a tough call but I would lean towards Tivo. Since I don't have a choice and I must stay with D* for Sunday Ticket, I'm happy using the HR20. I use 3 HR20s and 2 HR10s.
     
  12. Oct 16, 2007 #52 of 133
    gio1269

    gio1269 "HR20 Army"

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    Yes, I am semi-retired at the ripe old age of 38! I decided to be a semi-stay at home Dad. :D

    You MADE my point on not getting out enough. Twinkies are back dude! But now they are being DEEP FRIED. :eek: . Are you in a cave with that HR10?

    BTW, I hate those!
     
  13. Oct 16, 2007 #53 of 133
    gio1269

    gio1269 "HR20 Army"

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    Why not ask for another HR20 to be sent? Yes, I heard of these missing programs but mine has not. It's been perfect except for the DD Optical port dying.

    My HR10 grated only missed maybe 3 shoes in almost 2 yrs.

    If the HR20 NEVER missed a show, would you find it a quality replacement?

    The wife and kids I am sure will adjust. My wife hated it at first as well because she had to learn everything all over. Now she prefers it in most respects.
     
  14. Oct 16, 2007 #54 of 133
    gio1269

    gio1269 "HR20 Army"

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    I agree. The 3 things I miss about the HR10 is the same as you and the dual live buffers.

    D* can easily add these to the HR20 and I think thy might. Or something similar to the WL.

    With the HR20 networking capabilities and on-demand coming it's a sweet box.
     
  15. Oct 16, 2007 #55 of 133
    Sir_winealot

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    We've gone through 4 HR20 replacements now ...I'm not gonna get another replacement, as it's not a hardware problem.

    There are some things I don't like about the HR20 (slow channel changing, the CIR bug, no DLB) but if it never missed a show (my major beef), yes I'd think of it as a quality replacement ...without a doubt.

    But it's been missing shows for about 14 months now (although much fewer than in the beginning).


    I don't think DLB's will ever be added ....this has been stated on the other forum.
     
  16. Oct 16, 2007 #56 of 133
    newsposter

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    to lighten this up, here's a joke for you

    When i got the hr20 i had/have 110 problems. I wanted to see if i could switch tuners to see if it was on the other tuner. But I couldnt figure out how to switch tuners like i did on tivo, pressing the live button. I looked at the shortcut pdf on dbs and even thumbed thru the manual

    then it dawned on me what they meant by dual buffers being missing. I guess you cant switch between tuners even to test them out and there is no way to tell what tuner you are on (though that's the same with tivo)
     
  17. Oct 16, 2007 #57 of 133
    joed32

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    You can switch tuners by changing channels 3 times then you will be on the other tuner.
     
  18. Oct 16, 2007 #58 of 133
    hybucket

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    I too think the 50 program limit is absurd. This is the reply from DirecTV CSR:

    With regard to the season pass limit of an HR20, as of this time we don't have any updates yet on its capacity, however, we are working on this issue right now.

    So that's good news, I guess...assuming this guy/girl has a clue.
     
  19. Oct 17, 2007 #59 of 133
    Cruzan

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    Yes, the 50-pass limit is a showstopper for me, particularly with lack of suggestions. I have about 70, and not being able to set'em and forget'em will keep me from the HR20 until that's addressed, or if Tivo arrives on Comcast's own box in my area I'll go there.

    Egocentrism is defined as an inability to see the world through another's eyes. The good news here is that we only have to read Gio's posts - we don't have to live with him.
     
  20. Oct 17, 2007 #60 of 133
    gio1269

    gio1269 "HR20 Army"

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    But yet you only want to see through your Tivo based eyes and nothing else. You been drinking "Tivo Kool-Aid" much to long. What a tool....
     

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