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Want to upgrade my Tv

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by mikey1273, Jul 9, 2018.

  1. OrangeCrush

    OrangeCrush New Member

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    I couldn't care less about 4k, but HDR makes a noticeable difference and I've never seen a TV that's HDR and not also 4k, so it is what it is.

    The next model up of TCLs (6 series) has much better reviews on picture quality and similar. You can find the 55 inch for $600ish ($584.99 with free shipping on Amazon right now), see if you can find one to look at in person if it's more to your liking. If it's going to be a smart TV (and nowadays, that's all you can find) I much prefer a Roku smart TV to anything else.

    The Samsungs have really nice picture for the price too, but I despise their smart-tv app platform, and I find even just changing the inputs with a different remote (i.e. the Tivo remote) to be annoying. The one I got around Christmas has a stupid metal touch-pad style remote. I leave it behind the TV in case I ever need it but otherwise avoid it as much as possible. If you don't mind juggling two remotes or putting up with the annoyance whenever you want to switch back to the Tivo from an app or another streaming device, then it's fine, but I won't buy another Samsung TV any time soon.

    Also, don't forget Prime "Day" starts Sunday night depending on your time zone, and there will very likely be TV deals.
     
  2. randywalters

    randywalters AVS Old Timer

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    Even if you adjust the settings on the TVs on display in a bright Best Buy environment, you will not get an accurate idea of how it will look in your own home. They keep all the cheaper TVs in the store in blown-out "Retail" mode. You can't really get a good idea of actual picture quality, but you can check out how reflective they are or how much they lose contrast as you move off center. At your budget level, you won't get a good performer - but with some research you can determine which ones are "least worst". Samsungs tend to look un-natural (even the higher end models). Toshiba and Sharp are basically the same level as TCL or Hisense nowadays, nothing like they were in their heyday. The cheaper Sony would probably still outperform these bargain brands.

    You should go to the LCD TV Forum over at AVS - they have threads and posts about pretty much every LCD TV on the market. You can search for a particular model number then read what people are saying about them:

    https://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/
     
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  3. chicagobrownblue

    chicagobrownblue Well-Known Member

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    I bought a smart 4K HDR10 55" Samsung un55mu6290 for $497 at Best Buy during Black Friday 2017. This is considered a basic set by many now but it works well for me. If you want a better set, get one with Dolby Vision. My set has 3 HDMI inputs but I only have 2 HDMI sources so that also works for me. I watched "Coco" from DVD and it looked great. I do have a Bluray player but seldom play Bluray discs.

    I've used the Netflix (I do not pay the extra for 4K content) app on the TV. It starts up a little faster than the Tivo app. I just use the Tivo app which is more convenient. The TV also has an app for Amazon Prime Video is the another 4K content provider.
     
  4. ncbill

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    That's the one to get if you don't want to pony up for OLED.

    But buy it locally so you can check it out at home for the "vertical banding" problem some have.
     
  5. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Something you can do is to go to ie: Best Buy, browse for the TV you would like, note the make/model number and order it from Amazon. It will be delivered if you have any difficulty in getting it home.
    Best Buy will also price match from Amazon.
     
  6. mikey1273

    mikey1273 Member

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    I really don't want to pony up the coin for oled there was an LG set that was at best buy right above an OLED set costing like 2500 that was some nano dot led I really liked but I'm not sure I want to spend that much. It was 849. I can afford but question if I need to spend that much to be happy. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-55-...rt-4k-uhd-tv-with-hdr/6211105.p?skuId=6211105

    Tonight. I Had a few minutes so I stopped in to Wal-Mart. They had the TCL sets on display and I was actually more impressed with how they looked than before. The 65" 65s401 was at eye level and looked great. They had the 55s401 up high above that, the colours did look more washed out but I think that was from the viewing angle more than the tv . The 4 series is an older model. Like another person said it may be their lighting at best buy and how it was adjusted that it looked unimpressive. I may like it when I get it home. So I going to keep looking and having an open mind. With Amazon prime day next week I am going to look there and I know other places best buy included are going to price match
    I prefer to buy local so if there is a problem returns are easier. I have a Jeep SUV so I can put the back seat down and get it home that should be no problem .
     
  7. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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  8. mikey1273

    mikey1273 Member

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    Interesting wonder if the keyboard really works with the tv. The extras are cool. I won't wall mount in these old horse hair plaster walls but I could sell it
     
  9. ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    You can only mount it where you can find the studs.
     
  10. mikey1273

    mikey1273 Member

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    [​IMG] In this place the studs are 24" on center, not 16" like in newer homes. It is not really a issue for most things that are light, since the wall is old plaster it has lathe board running horizontally. If you nail in to that for a picture or something it will hold but for a tv you would have to be sure you bolted in to probably 2 studs. In the room I also have this 1" thick waincoting that is made of individual tounge and grove sections with a trim cap that I prefer not to tear up as much as possible. [​IMG]

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  11. hummingbird_206

    hummingbird_206 Retired

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    I just purchased the latest model TCL 55" from Amazon for $585 when it was on sale last week. Folks think it will be lower on Prime day, but I didn't wait. Out of the box the picture was way too bright for me (and it soap opera mode) but it was pretty easy to adjust the settings and I love the TV.
     
  12. jcondon

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    Best Buy also has free delivery on TVs. I picked up the TCL 55" P605 a month or two ago from them. My delivery got bumped from a Saturday to the following Tuesday (truck broke down). While annoying it worked out fine as they bring it inside and leave it where you want. So my wife didn't have to try and drag in a UPS delivery. Second TV we have bought in the last 4 years from Best Buy and had them deliver it. They will (or at least have in the past) price match Amazon.
     
  13. mikey1273

    mikey1273 Member

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    How have You liked the series 6 Tv so far? Sounds like you are pleased with it. Were you able to get you TiVo remote to turn it on and off?
     
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  14. mikey1273

    mikey1273 Member

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    I seen that on display at best buy but it was $551 on clearance.
    It did look fine. I had best buy price match Amazon on a prime day item 2 years ago. I am sure they still will
     
  15. hummingbird_206

    hummingbird_206 Retired

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    I love it. Yes, I'm using the TiVo remote to control the power as well as volume. I had to google the remote codes as the ones that came up on the TiVo list didn't work. The code that worked for me was 0091.
     
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  16. jcondon

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    I got it for $499 before it went on clearance from $551. It was on sale for $100 off. After it went off sale it went on clearance for $49 more then I paid for it. :confused:

    I heard people complaining about the banding on the 2018 models. For $100 less then the 615 I figured I would be happy with the 2017 model and so far I am. I really wasn't even sure I wanted a new TV but well $500 was too good a price for me to resist.
     
  17. mikey1273

    mikey1273 Member

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    I have heard about the banding too on 2018 models that's on thing that really gives me some pause on just flat out buying it. I like the extra Dolby. HDR features and zone dimming. Not sure once at home in my lounge it going to be noticeable or not. Last night's trip to Wal-Mart and seeing the 65 and 55 inch 4 series there on display I'd say they were very acceptable. So if I buy a TCL it needs to be local in case there is an banding issue.
     
  18. hummingbird_206

    hummingbird_206 Retired

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    No banding on my new TCL. :) It's the R617 that has been reported to have some problems.
     
  19. jerryez

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  20. OrangeCrush

    OrangeCrush New Member

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    One thing on the remotes and inputs that I especially like about the Roku TVs--the inputs show up as app icons so it's very easy to switch inputs. You can also choose where it goes on power up, and I have mine set to always power up to the Tivo. If you're only using the Roku and the Tivo, this means you never have to actually change the inputs. Want to watch the Tivo? Grab the Tivo remote, turn it on, it's at the Tivo homescreen. Want to watch the Roku? Grab the Roku remote, turn it on, and either hit home to get to the Roku menu or hit one of the pre-programmed buttons to go directly to the app you want.

    You can still change the inputs with either remote if you need to, but you never actually need to.
     

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