Want a MPEG-4 DVR with TiVo from DirecTV?

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by BlankMan, Aug 12, 2008.

Want an MPEG-4 HD DirectTV DVR with TiVo?

  1. I did it! I told DTV I want my HD MPEG-4 TiVo DVR!

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  2. Not me. I love DTV's HD DVR's just the way they are.

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  3. Not me, I could care less.

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  4. What's TiVo?

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  5. What's a DVR?

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  6. What's TiVo and what's a DVR?

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  7. Who's DTV?

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  1. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Yep, but probably not for a premium. So, the scenario I see would be that D* and E* would come up with a standard like cable card. And then charge an rental amount for those cards + Tivo would charge their monthly price per box. And you kinda see where this is going.

    If the Directv DVR fee is only $5.99 per month for all the Directv DVRs in your household... well then the pig is not so bad.


     
  2. Jebberwocky!

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    I've got 5 HR20's and two DTIVO's - no way would I be able to pay anything significanty more than I currently am paying. Everytime I price out going with TIVO/cable it just costs way too much compared with what I'm paying now. And that's not even figuring in the cost of the equipment.
     
  3. BlankMan

    BlankMan I'm the Kettle

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    Gullible? No. Tenacious? Yes. Just because something is hard does not mean I'm not going to try, or give up easily.

    As for the attack, it's the tone of what you write You really need to wake up. or gullible. I'm wide awake, been that way all my life. As for gullible? Not a chance. If you knew me you would then know that any of that is far from the truth. So, sorry for using the word attack.

    I'm quite educated and quite accomplished, I don't view anything as impossible, my career exemplifies that. Because I take on and accomplish things others consider too hard to do. There's always a way, you just have to keep trying until you find it and accomplish it. That is what I do. And I'm good at it.
     
  4. BlankMan

    BlankMan I'm the Kettle

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    I really did. And can back it up. But I believe the NDA prevents me from saying any more, even now.

    And I'd like to do it again sometime, so I'm not going to ruin my chances by revealing information that I'm maybe not suppose to just because there are skeptics here.

    And if proving it to you was of any value, which it's not, there are people within TiVo the could corroborate it.
     
  5. madbeachcat

    madbeachcat Content is King

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    Sorry it took me so long to come back and check this thread out. I'm also sorry you think I'm telling you to give up. Take whatever actions you want to take and do whatever you want to do. Maybe you'll get what you want.

    But just because it's something you want, doesn't mean that I want it, or that a majority of other users want it. Maybe a majority on this board dedicated to Tivo.

    I'm just stating my opinion, and I'll stick with it.:)
     
  6. BlankMan

    BlankMan I'm the Kettle

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  7. BlankMan

    BlankMan I'm the Kettle

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    No hard feeling I hope. I just don't want to be told it's useless, give up, it'll never happen, yada yada yada.

    People I don't know will not convince me to give up, just like a minority of DirecTV's customers may never convince them to offer TiVo boxes.

    But that doesn't mean it shouldn't be attempted.
     
  8. 20TIL6

    20TIL6 BaDoop BaDoop BaDoop

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    Magnus,

    How about some bullet points to share with the FCC? I don't mind putting some time into it. I agree that the FCC would have the loudest single voice in this.

    BlankMan,

    Keep doing what you believe in. I too got a response from DirecTV as a result from my email. Along the lines of, "We are continuing to enhance features for our DirecTV/TiVo customers... There are no plans at this time for new DirecTV/TiVo products... I will forward your comments on to management as a point of record"

    Sure maybe a form response, but I made my feelings known. There is absolutely no harm in that, even if NOTHING comes from it.
     
  9. bwperez

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    I have to agree. Something in the last two weeks has made my HR20 much slower. when a show ends it takes forever to ask if it should be deleted. Then when I delete the show it takes 30-45seconds to go back to the now playing list.

    I also agree with your desire for dual tuner buffers and the guild. Give me a choice and I'd pick the Tivo anyday.

    Brian
     
  10. BlankMan

    BlankMan I'm the Kettle

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    Thanks.
     
  11. BlankMan

    BlankMan I'm the Kettle

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    Interesting point you made. My HR20 was updated 7/16 and I'd have to say after that the issue really became noticeable.
     
  12. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Hey, that's cool that you forced D*'s hand to get things fixed... but this is an entirely different situation. That was a bug that needed to be corrected and if that did not show you about D*'s customer service, well then.

    They're just simply not going to go back to Tivo and your only hope for a Tivo HD box for satellite is going to be the FCC route.

     
  13. BlankMan

    BlankMan I'm the Kettle

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    I think your idea to have the FCC make them open up the technology is a good one, but I have to think that would just take forever if at all.

    Cable Card seemed like an uphill fight and it took a while, and then all the functionality wasn't there. I actually looked into it when the HD TiVo cable box came out, but between TWC and DirecTV I feel DirecTV is the lesser of two evils.

    I'm all for supporting you taking the FCC path. Go for it!
     
  14. bigpuma

    bigpuma Well-Known Member

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    The HR2* does not use NDS software but in house DirecTV software. I agree about the reason to going with them in the first place. Now it looks like they made the right financial decision in making their own DVR. Unfortunately there are not enough folks leaving DirecTV due to TiVo for them to re-think this decision. In fact the numbers look extremely good for DirecTV and I am sure they are quite happy with their decision. It is unfortunate for those that want more choice, but DirecTV seems determined to move toward one receiver for all customers.
     
  15. sjberra

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    same as when the HR10 was the available - a DVR charge and a lease/mirror cost for every other unit.
     
  16. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    I think you somehow misinterpreted my interest in this. I am only telling you that the only way this is going to happen is IF the FCC forces them to do it.

    I could really care less if D* ever gets a Tivo HD box... that ship has sailed for me (as you should have seen from my thread link).

    So, if you're looking for a champion to get with the FCC.... then you have wrong person.

    I am only suggesting that the more productive approach would be to get with the FCC on the problem.


     
  17. sjberra

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    Yo do realize that NDS has nothing to do with the HR2X series right?
     
  18. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    I am referring to a future where D* is forced by the FCC to allow Tivo access to their system.

    I am not referring to a D* sanctioned box.... because that will never happen.

    So, no I do not believe that it would just be $4.99 for the next box.

     
  19. sjberra

    sjberra New Member

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    Suspect we will all be dead and in the grave before that happens.

    At one point I have 3 HR2X, 1 HR10, 1 SD, I paid the single 5.99 DVR charge and 4 lease/mirror charges or 4.99, one of the units was included in the package price
     
  20. BlankMan

    BlankMan I'm the Kettle

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    Interesting. Because NDS claims DirecTV is one of their DVR customers. So then who makes the HR2's?

    But it really doesn't matter, as bigpuma pointed out it's DirecTV in house software and it's the software at issue.
     

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