Want a MPEG-4 DVR with TiVo from DirecTV?

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by BlankMan, Aug 12, 2008.

Want an MPEG-4 HD DirectTV DVR with TiVo?

  1. I did it! I told DTV I want my HD MPEG-4 TiVo DVR!

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  2. Not me. I love DTV's HD DVR's just the way they are.

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  3. Not me, I could care less.

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  4. What's TiVo?

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  5. What's a DVR?

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  6. What's TiVo and what's a DVR?

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  7. Who's DTV?

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  1. Aug 13, 2008 #61 of 286
    sjberra

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    Don't see the HR10 listed there at all - TIVO wrote the software for the it only, is not their dvr.

    Also, still waiting for a poll that can be validated, the particular one you just pointed out is not truely accurate, was able to vote for each of the units, so there is at least 1 vote that points to the fact the poll is not accurate at all, the ability to provide validated, proveable results in not there.

    The reports filed to the SEC/FINRA tend to point in opposite directions then the ones that you supply.

    How is Comcast?
     
  2. Aug 13, 2008 #62 of 286
    RS4

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    Yes, you could be quite right, but using your logic 87% prefer not to have a D* dvr - again putting them significantly behind the Tivo choice.:p
     
  3. Aug 13, 2008 #63 of 286
    TonyTheTiger

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    Wow - just wow.

    You find ONE thread from a guy trying to hack the HR10 back in January and this is your response!

    ..and no, I don't "think highly of DirecTV's DRV's" (sic). In fact, in this very thread I've stated that I'm having problems with an HR21 as well as stating I would much prefer to have a TiVo-based unit. More misinformation.

    Oh, and in what universe is "asking nicely" calling someone a troll and accusing them of being antagonistic?

    Are you SURE we haven't met before?
     
  4. Aug 13, 2008 #64 of 286
    RS4

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    Well, I'm not quite sure why you asked me about Comcast, but I found them to be quite surprising. I had been a broadband customer for several years but had been with D* for about 14 years. I found their service to be right on time and quite thorough. I like the fact that I am not tied to a commitment, so that I could move to another video supplier if I like another offer. I also enjoy the HD and SD channels. I found the SD channels were superior to D*. I always have around 20 -25 HD items to look at, plus all of the HD on the other Tivo HD that is only getting the OTA signals and that I can view on my main Tivo via MRV. I also enjoy the variety of items I find on the internet, so all in all I am quite happy with Comcast. However, I do look forward to the day when my Tivo finds more stuff on the internet. I think that will cause a real revolution in the video supply industry.

    As far as the reports you mention, once again, they do not show how many people left D* because of Tivo nor do they show how many people joined D* because of their in-house dvr.

    The polls I mentioned and the two at the dbstalk forum clearly show a preference for Tivo. You can try to claim otherwise, but until I see other numbers to the contrary, it's clear in my mind who the public feels makes the superior dvr.
     
  5. Aug 13, 2008 #65 of 286
    CuriousMark

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    I want the interface to be consistent within my home and match the two series 2 TiVos I own right now. The DTV interface is NOT consistent with that. Perhaps you didn't understand me. If they want to keep their interface the same on all their boxes, that is fine too.

    If they allow TiVo to sell me the box and support it, I don't see why it would be that big an expense to them. If they need to recover some of that cost from supporting a second platform, even tangential costs, then charge for it as was suggested a few posts back. At some point the FCC is going to force this down their throats. IF they get ahead of it, they will have more control. They will be able to let third parties in on terms they have some say-so about.

    Their model is working OK now, no one is disputing that, that I can tell. Still, if they want customers like me to stay, they will need to offer what I want. I hope they do, but if not, it is no big deal. Satellite and cable are similar enough for me to consider them nearly interchangeable.
     
  6. Aug 13, 2008 #66 of 286
    BlankMan

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    Thought you said here...
    That didn't last long....

    More then one actually.

    Ok, I stand corrected, I see you've said you'd actually prefer a TiVo unit.

    Never called, might have implied.

    Back on topic now?
     
  7. Aug 13, 2008 #67 of 286
    sjberra

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    Was curious how you likes the content since you switched from Directv and the HR10 to it

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=388412&highlight=comcast

    "Yes, I recently switched from Direct to Comcast. I had Comcast before for my broadband, so it was very easy to get a Tivo HD and try it out for 30 days. You can't do that with the D* dvrs - as soon as they are in your house, you're stuck with them for 2 years unless you pay a hefty cancellation fee."

    Bottom line - none of the polls you so aptly point out can be validated for accuracy. SEC/FINRA reports can be - look at the bottom line there. Even after losing the vaulted HR10, directv's customer retention and acquistion rate has been increasing, while their churn rate stays low If what you say is true then those numbers should be going down, bit they are not.

    still find it amusing that you will point out every poll that shows the TIVO in the limelight as being accurate and fair but any poll shows different is worded with a non-Tivo bias. Unless the poll results can be validate you have no way of being sure you are accurate. As mentioned before - awards from sites - just dpeends on who pays them the most that particualr month
     
  8. Aug 13, 2008 #68 of 286
    magnus

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    I really do not admire him for this. I'm sorry but his time is being wasted on this D* does not care at all. They will tell him what he wants to hear but nothing will be done.

    I would admire him more for getting the FCC to do something about the issue. If they saw fit to force the cable co's to use cable card then they need to mandate that C* and E* do something similar.

    It's pretty simple... his cries for Tivo on D* are going to fall on deaf ears... and he needs to complain to the FCC.

     
  9. Aug 14, 2008 #69 of 286
    BlankMan

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    shibby191 Tried the Info button on the channel, yes that works, but way slowwwww while it gets the data to display. Not a biggy, but goes again to DTV's DVR's being slow to respond to a keypress. But I guess each has its functions/operations that are slow.
     
  10. Aug 14, 2008 #70 of 286
    BlankMan

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    Maybe yes. Maybe no. But if one always assumes that nothing will happen and therefore uses that as an excuse not to try, then yes, nothing will happen.
     
  11. Aug 14, 2008 #71 of 286
    magnus

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    Why not waste your time with someone that actually might do something about it? Why not let the FCC know of your frustration with D*?

    You really need to wake up.... D* will not do anything on their own. Your best bet for a Tivo HD box with satellite capability is to work on petitioning the FCC to get it. Then it would have the added benefit of being able to use it on E* if D* ticked you off.

    I'm sure that D* would much rather do this on their own than open up their system to Tivo but since they won't any other way then the FCC will have to force them.

    Then ofcourse there is the issue of getting Tivo to create a box to do this and who knows if they even want to go that route or not.

     
  12. Aug 14, 2008 #72 of 286
    20TIL6

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    Hey Magnus,

    What would be the key points in a complaint to the FCC? Other than from a consumer point of view, that I just like TiVo better and would like to use TiVo with DirecTV.

    I am sure you are referring to similar technology as cablecards, and how satellite is unfairly exempted. But are there other key points that the FCC would consider as valid?

    I see what you are saying.

    I would write the FCC, or more likely, file a complaint on their website. It works. The FCC assisted me with getting Comcast to remove copy protection flags from channels where they were clearly unwarranted. So it does work to contact the FCC in some cases.

    If you summarized in bullet form why DirecTV should be forced to allow third party reception devices, I would craft a complaint and submit it to the FCC. I am sure Blankman would do the same, as well as others. Heck, maybe someone here already has a complaint on hand that we can leverage.

    I don't mind targeting the FCC.
     
  13. Aug 14, 2008 #73 of 286
    direfan

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    Didn't you say you were done with this thread? So why are you posting?
     
  14. Aug 14, 2008 #74 of 286
    TonyD79

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    Yes. And I have had an HD Tivo for Comcast for almost a year now.

    Other than dual live buffers, I like the HR2x's better. I find the Tivo balky and slow and pretty much the same box it was five years ago (I don't really care that much about You Tube or SD Unbox when I have a computer and HD On Demand from DirecTV) while the HR2x is responsive and improving all the time.

    The "deficiencies" you listed are pretty minor to me. Never liked the Tivo Guide and while it would be nice to be able to look back in time on the guide, I do or did that about once a month. Nice to see that you don't see any of the things the HR2x's do better like bookmarks, or a 90 minute buffer or Game Search (which finds a non-blacked out version of a game for you)...

    BTW, give it up. It is not going to happen. All you did for DirecTV was give them data on what a vocal customer wants in his DVR. They are not going to go back to Tivo when business is booming. But finding out what items about Tivo that Tivo lovers loved? They sure as shooting are interested in that. In fact, a few months ago, that specific question was asked from DirecTV on dbstalk.
     
  15. Aug 14, 2008 #75 of 286
    TonyD79

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  16. Aug 14, 2008 #76 of 286
    Jebberwocky!

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    probably because you keep quoting him :confused:
     
  17. Aug 14, 2008 #77 of 286
    TonyD79

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    They will not use anecdotal calls or emails from customers when they have surveys and marketing tools *and* their sales are booming and their customer retention is at an all time high.
     
  18. Aug 14, 2008 #78 of 286
    direfan

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    But if you are done with a thread, you are done, right? The fact that he keeps on replying means that he is not done.
     
  19. Aug 14, 2008 #79 of 286
    Jebberwocky!

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    some people hate not getting in the last word - like me ;)
     
  20. Aug 14, 2008 #80 of 286
    direfan

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    Are you serious? ;)
     

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