Want a MPEG-4 DVR with TiVo from DirecTV?

Really? Where?

Absolutely. We're all entitled to our opinions, whether they're wrong or right!

How about the fact that someone (hint hint) accused me of being a troll for expressing my opinion? Where's the hypocracy? Please don't make stuff up and then call me hypocritical.

Well, that's exactly what I would have done had you not accused me of being a troll!

As for being antagonistic, I think you have that title all to yourself.

 

Sorry but if you think 40% of their customers have to have a TiVo, I would suspect that perhaps you might just be a teeny bit off of the mark. 40% of the folks on a TiVo forum, representing, perhaps tens of thousands of accounts out of 18 million is more likely the ration and at the end of the day, the number of folks actually willing to walk away over this is even smaller. It is just an inconsequential number. If more folks backed up their mouths with their wallets then perhaps DirecTv might want to listen, but the reality is they are still adding subscribers quarterly. Period.

 

You contradict yourself, a consistant interface is exactly what they are after. They want the same UI, the same platform to aid in everything from customer support to the installers. Folks can make suppositions all day long about how many additional customers DirecTv MIGHT be able to retain if they offered both platforms, but the additional expenses might far outwiegh the minimal number of additional subscribers. They are adding subscribers every quarter and it doesnt matter if its because of their DVR, or if its because of their expanded lineup or because of some other reason. They are adding customers when Dish is losing them. It makes sense that their economic model is working perfectly.

 

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There is na way that anyone could possibly know that. And what defines a "lot"? Is it 100 or a 1,000? Everyones view is different and everyones perception is their own reality. And as you yourself just said since no-one has an idea of the economics involved, how can you possibly be sure a pricing structure could be made. Once again if that $ amount was 15.00 a month ore more, how many folks would pay that? And unless I have missed something has there ever been an official release from TiVo that states that they even want to walk down this road?

 

I will say this I almost always ended up recording a program when switching between games on the TiVos due to the fact that I inevitably would hit the channel change button by accident. I haven't tried the work around for DLBs yet as I have gotten used to not having them. I will try it this football season for sure.

 

Really?

Going to the start of the conversation,

Blankman:

Boy I wish DirecTV and TiVo would get back together.... I talked with DirecTV on the phone and asked them about it. Maybe those of us that want this should contact DirecTV and share our thoughts about it. Blah, blah, blah.

TonyTheTiger:

Oh no, not again!

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I don't care if you got a call from the POTUS, it ain't gonna happen. If you think you're the first to have these delusions, think again.

We see a post like this about once every other week. What makes yours any different?

You set the time period and I'll put up $100 against whatever you want that it will not happen.

 

Once again I find this argument hard to follow. Unless you know the numbers, your chastisement of me because of the opinions I expressed are totally baseless. We all know that Tivo has worked with D* before, so they have a basis assigning a cost to that part of the equation. We also know that Tivo knows how to do HD. We saw Tivo develop the Tivo HD in less than a year when compared to the S3. We just don't know how much any of these figures are. So only Tivo and D* can decide if it's worth taking a risk of developing a product for Tivo customers.

D* is still growing, but now is in second place to Verizon. Their growth in the last quarter was about 40% of the previous quarter. They are just lucky that Verizon doesn't pass by as many houses as Direct, or they might be growing negatively as Dish is.

My guess is that D* could give Tivo the license to access the network for free and still grow more than they are today, just in the subscription fees they would get.

In the end, just think how silly the argument is - 'we don't want to to allow another product to connect to our system because we might grow'

And yes, there were statements from Tivo a couple of times about working with D*.

 

Nothing like a thread that turns into another pi$$ing contest over a topic that is long dead and won't ever come to pass, regardless of how much you ***** and whine about it. Give it a rest already. The topic doesn't need to be revived on a weekly basis.

 

I'm not going to waste any more time on a discussion that includes people misquoting others and taking the parts out of a whole sequence of posts that make their point look good!

If you want a discussion on why your attempts are futile, then I will happily intelligently discuss it with you. However, I will not descend into name-calling and editing data to prove my point.

End of.

 

If I could get FiOS, I might feel the same way. But I can't, so I like to see this topic continue to still come up.

 

Once again I found the poll from Engadget engadge poll The last time I checked, over 2,500 people had responded to the poll. The clear winner by 3 to 1 over the nearest competitor was Tivo.

If you look at the dbstalk forum you will also find a couple of polls showing that responders (on a D* fanboy forum) prefer the Tivo.

Another way to look at it - how many awards has D* won for their design and/or implementation of their dvr? Clearly, the press, the customers, and others feel the Tivo is the best product out there - by a huge majority.

 

according to your poll, over 65% of respondents prefer not to have TIVO's.

BTW, hardly a legitimate poll - I just voted twice!