Walking Dead / Talking Dead - 3/29 - Conquer

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Test, Mar 29, 2015.

  1. markz

    markz Well-Known Member

    13,769
    89
    Oct 22, 2002
    Connersville...

    Advertisements

    I thought it was always guarded. Didn't the guy ask Gabriel to relieve him so he could go to the meeting? Hopefully I still have it and can go back to rewatch.

    ETA:

    Maybe he was just guarding it to let Gabriel out and back in, and then didn't need to guard it. They didn't know Glenn and Nicholas were outside.
     
  2. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    58,613
    4,330
    Apr 16, 2003
    Arizona
    As they were both walking away, I'm pretty sure Spencer just said, "Can you get that?" If he was intending for Gabriel to take over guarding the gate, that certainly wasn't clear.
     
  3. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    12,799
    204
    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    "Simply put, there's a vast ocean of shirt you people don't know shirt about. Rick knows every fine grain of said shirt...and then some."


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2015
  4. KyleLC

    KyleLC Unregistered User

    5,783
    24
    Feb 6, 2002
    Sugar Land, TX
    Correct.
     
  5. markz

    markz Well-Known Member

    13,769
    89
    Oct 22, 2002
    Connersville...

    Advertisements

    Ok, just rewatched the scene with Gabriel fighting with Sasha. After her gunshot goes through the window we see Nicholas, the people at the meeting, Rick, Glenn, Maggie with Sasha & Gabriel, Carl & Judith, the girl in the hospital bed and the girl with her, Pete, Daryl, Aaron, Morgan.

    Don't know which Alexandrites are missing. Didn't see the girl that Carl has been following. Or the boy that has been hanging around Carol.
     
  6. markz

    markz Well-Known Member

    13,769
    89
    Oct 22, 2002
    Connersville...
    When he opens the gate to let Gabriel in, he says "You're back. Good, I wanted to sneak off to the meeting."

    I mistook that for Gabriel taking his place on guard. Having rewatched, I think once the last of the people outside have returned inside, they don't guard the gate.
     
  7. getreal

    getreal postcrastinator

    4,506
    136
    Sep 29, 2003
    Earth
    When Rick discovered the gate open, didn't he pull some walker meat from the lock, indicating that someone might have tried to stop them and then ran away?
     
  8. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    58,613
    4,330
    Apr 16, 2003
    Arizona
    I didn't think it was walker meat. I thought it looked like something deliberately stuck in there to prevent the gate from staying shut when Gabriel slammed it.
     
  9. robojerk

    robojerk Well-Known Member

    2,806
    254
    Jun 13, 2006
    Laguna Hills CA
    I don't think the bullet from Sasha's gun hit anyone. Yes the bullet went out the window but the odds of it hitting someone are pretty low. I also think they wouldn't wait an entire season break and then show you that it did hit someone.

    Rick looked almost embarrassed by the state he was in when Morgan saw him. I think we finally found someone that Rick respects enough that can act as the voice of morality. Rick doesn't respect any of the Alexandrian's as evidenced by his comment on how many he would have to kill to protect them. He wants to save them, but is willing to sacrifice some for the greater good..

    Morgan, the first friendly face Rick met when this all started and helped heal Rick to find his family, the man that was in a pit of despair last they met and Rick tried to talk down to join humanity, is now here to be part of Rick's family. There might be some drama between Morgan's stance on all life is valuable, and the Grimes gang willing to kill some Alexandrian's to protect the rest. But I think Morgan will balance Rick out.
     
  10. robojerk

    robojerk Well-Known Member

    2,806
    254
    Jun 13, 2006
    Laguna Hills CA
    I doubt that. If Gabriel wasn't being such a selfish ****** he would have seen the gate didn't close correctly and fixed it, then whomever jammed the lock would have wasted their time trying to attempt that.

    It was walker meat that just got caught on the door as they came in. No devious intention here. Just Gabriel being a selfish whiner.
     
  11. Test

    Test Well-Known Member

    3,881
    55
    Dec 8, 2004
    I thought it was walker meat from one of them trying to squeeze through the gate and getting stuck on that lock. Pretty sure the gate was abandoned once Gabriel "closed" it.
     
  12. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    12,799
    204
    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    I don't quite understand why the assumption is Morgan spared the two Wolves? He put them in a car, then honked the horn to attract the walkers. There's no evidence he closed all the doors to the cars. I don't quite buy his "all life is precious/sacred" line (or whatever he said)....
     
  13. john4200

    john4200 Well-Known Member

    4,780
    56
    Oct 31, 2009
    Why haul the two unconscious bodies into the car if he was not trying to save them? Why not kill them after he knocked them out? Killing them where they lay would have been the smart thing to do. If someone is crazy and tries to kill you, it is not smart to leave them alive to try again when all indications are that they will not reconsider. Or if he did not want to kill them himself, he could have just let the bodies lie. There would be a good chance that they would be attacked by walkers. Hauling the bodies to the car does not make sense unless he is trying to keep them alive.

    I agree that the horn honking was ambiguous, but it could be explained as him checking if any walkers are near. If any came, he could have put the walkers down, so that when the men wake up they are not surrounded by walkers.
     
  14. Pralix

    Pralix Well-Known Member

    1,942
    51
    Dec 8, 2001
    Seattle, WA
    Morgan gave them many chances to back away and leave him be. I think he gave up on the all life is precious thing with them when he honked the horn. His look when he saw Rick was of disbelief. He probably didn't know or see the entire thing, probably only Rick shooting in cold blood.

    On the other hand, Morgan didn't kill the two Wolves, so technically there is no blood on his hands, he left it for the zombies to do. Rick killed someone in front of Morgan with his own hand.
     
  15. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    58,613
    4,330
    Apr 16, 2003
    Arizona
    A. We saw those same two guys later in the episode when they captured and killed Red Poncho Guy.

    B. On TD, Lennie James said he honked the horn to make sure the area was clear.
     
  16. JLucPicard

    JLucPicard Active Member

    3,393
    0
    Jul 8, 2004
    West St....
    When I first watched the scene, I thought that Morgan honked the horn to attract walkers to the Wolves, but as Lennie James explained on Talking Dead;

    He honked the horn to make sure there were no walkers in the area before he left them there. He didn't mention this, but I'm guessing the car doors were closed.

    Something tells me that the Alexandrians are aware that it takes a brain injury to kill a walker, but I'm not sure if they've experienced someone who dies actually turning. I was waiting to see how they would handle dealing with Reg needing to be 'brain killed' with Deanna there. If she would do it? If someone else would do it? As it went, that was never addressed. I'm guessing it won't be, either, once the new season starts.

    And I was a little creeped out with Sasha laying down with the walkers in the pit. That girl has some issues!




    Typing too much and Devdog got my explanation it while I was composing!
     
  17. Bongo

    Bongo New Member

    15
    0
    Mar 21, 2015
    I want to know how the car battery has enough power for the horn to work in the first place.
     
  18. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

    11,107
    154
    Oct 20, 2007
    MN, greater...
    He didn't have to know. This could have been his 5th attempt to bait Glenn and he finally got a bite or he may not have been baiting him at all, he could have seen that Glenn was following him and took the opportunity to shoot him.


    He went outside the wall all the time. How do you think he knew about the blender gun? and it works in his favor to not have witnesses so that he can create his own story about what happened to make himself look good.
     
  19. Supfreak26

    Supfreak26 Go Cowboys!

    9,960
    11
    Dec 12, 2003
    McKinney, TX
    All of the abandoned vehicles that characters have taken over the course of this series should not be operable. Rotted, flat tires. Old gas. Dead batteries. Critters chewing up the wiring. Etc.

    I have to deliberately ignore that every time I see someone driving a vehicle in this show.
     
  20. Supfreak26

    Supfreak26 Go Cowboys!

    9,960
    11
    Dec 12, 2003
    McKinney, TX
    On the subject of vehicles and pet peeves...

    If your job is to drive around and spy on people (while avoiding walkers) why does Darryl have to drive the loudest vehicle possible? You could hear that bike for miles.
     

Share This Page

spam firewall

Advertisements