Walking Dead OAD 27-Nov-2011

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  1. NetJunkie

    NetJunkie New Member

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    It's more than the finale...it's the whole second half of the season. Remember, this season was extended so it takes longer.
     
  2. photoshopgrl

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista TCF Club

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    The second part of the season starts Feb 12.
     
  3. Bierboy

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    :rolleyes:
     
  4. Fleegle

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    Just in time for Sweeps. I'm sure that's not a coincidence.
     
  5. Jan 1, 2012 #125 of 134
    Zevida

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    I have caught up on the whole series over the last three weeks.

    Why exactly is Rick the leader of this group? Were they a ragtag leaderless bunch before he showed up? Why do they defer to him?

    I really wanted to punch him on the face when he went to help with the wrangling. The good news is that by making Rick such a loser, they keep me on Shane's side because even though he is psycho, he's right about a lot of stuff.

    The final scene annoyed me slightly. I don't doubt that any one of them was willing to shoot Sophie. But she's small and wasn't an immediate (right this second) threat. Having Rick step up to kill he after being a p*ssy and not helping kill the other zombies just rubbed me wrong.
     
  6. Jan 1, 2012 #126 of 134
    Fleegle

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    We've talked about both points before, but for the record:

    I saw Rick going with Herschel to round up the zombies his way of telling Herschel that his group was willing to live by Herschel's rules if that was the only way they were able to stay there. Herschel extended an olive branch by asking Rick to go with him and Rick accepted it by helping round the zombies up like Herschel wanted.

    The Shane has to go and force everyone's hand by releasing the zombies in the barn. Rick has spent days telling Herschel that the zombies are no longer the person he knew. It wasn't his wife and neighbors in that barn, they were creatures wearing their bodies. They had just killed those bodies of people Herschel loved, it would be the height of hypocrisy for Rick to NOT shoot Sophia in the exact same manner. I think it was an eye opening moment for a lot of people on both sides, Rick understood how hard it was to "kill" a child he had known in front of her mother, and Herschel saw that this was something that has to be done. Since we have seen nothing since this scene, we can't know for sure that anyone will actually accept that the other side has a point, but I'd be surprised if someone's mind isn't changed.
     
  7. Jan 1, 2012 #127 of 134
    Zevida

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    I know that's what Rick was doing, but it was Stupid with a capital S. Rick should have told the old man to suck it, we're staying, this is an apocalypse, your land is our land. There was a middle ground between Rick the pacifist and Shane the psycho and I wish Rick had found it instead of being such a loser about it.

    BTW, I've read every single thread as I've watched the series. I know what's already been discussed. That doesn't mean I can't or won't add my two cents in.
     
  8. Jan 2, 2012 #128 of 134
    jradosh

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    Ditto! In a better-written show the characters would evolve and adapt. I think the young Asian guy (I forget his name right now...) has to a degree. Also blondie. But not Rick.

    Please do! This conversation needs (ah hem) fresh blood.
     
  9. Jan 2, 2012 #129 of 134
    CharlieW

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    At heart, Rick is still a police officer, not a pacifist. He's still trying to hold onto the belief system and basic laws he swore to enforce and protect. Shane, on the other hand, seems to have deep-rooted issues and an obsession with Lori that has further affected his judgment.

    I believe that Rick is trying to resolve the matter with Herschel peacefully, without changing into the type of man who would take over the farm by force. That being said, Rick will do whatever it takes to ensure the safety of his family.
     
  10. Jan 2, 2012 #130 of 134
    photoshopgrl

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    I agree. I find Rick FAR from a loser. He's trying to not turn into a barbarian and hold on to civilization in a world that's fallen apart. It's not realistic but remember the others have been around from day one, this man woke up in the middle of all this. I can see his delusion being founded in his mind even after all he's seen so far. Shane on the other hand was always a lose canon and I suspect civilization was the only thing holding him in. Now that's gone, he's lost his mind. Add in his love/obsession with Lori and his guilt over it and yeah.

    If I were there, I'd take Shane over Rick in a heart beat. Shane would keep me alive longer. That doesn't mean he's the better man.
     
  11. Jan 2, 2012 #131 of 134
    Zevida

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    This is a good analysis. I've thought all along that it was really odd that Rick wore his deputy uniform all the time. He's trying to pretend like the world still exists the way that he knew it. In some ways it is admirable, but on the other hand he was putting his family in more danger by going along with Herschel than he would have been by just telling Herschel they aren't leaving, maybe staging a zombie break-out, then taking care of the problem.

    It is really interesting that both Rick and Shane are so flawed. I completely agree with photoshopgrl, I'd go with Shane in a heartbeat over Rick (I'd just make sure I always had at least two bullets left). Rick's desperation to keep society intact is what puts his family in more danger.
     
  12. Jan 2, 2012 #132 of 134
    Amnesia

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    OK, I watched the entire series over the past few days. It seems to me that we still don't know what Jenner whispered to Grimes at the end of last season. I had thought that it was about Lori's pregnancy, but when she told him, it certainly appeared that he had no idea...
     
  13. Jan 3, 2012 #133 of 134
    Vendikarr

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    I am fairly certain it's that everyone is infected, and the virus only activates upon death. Dying from a bite is just a fast acting infection.

    I know this doesn't explain the dead in the cars on the highway, but I think this is the direction they will go.
     
  14. Jan 6, 2012 #134 of 134
    DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    IIRC, when the creator was on Talking Dead, he said that when it's revealed what Jenner whispered, it will be very clear that's what it was, and viewers won't have to wonder if that was it.
     

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