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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by sgsmith, Nov 27, 2011.
I think the Sophia arc has been closed.
And a lot of new arcs started.
Wow, that was an intense final scene! I loved the emotion of it all! Shane has LOST it! But I think he was right!
The first half was the same boring crap we've seen all season. At least the second half picked up a little bit and the ending was good. Maybe we can move on from the Walton's farm.
I'm kind of surprised no one tackled/punched/shot Herschel for letting them roam the walker infested woods all this time, meanwhile they had the zombie girl the whole time.
I was yawning through this episode, the end was okay.
That was pretty heart wrenching. But Shane was in the right IMO. But the end gave them a taste of their own medicine.
I really liked the ending.
The half season arc to get to it took it's sweet time though.
It looks like maybe they're going a different route than in the comics, where
currently Glen, Maggie, and Sophia form an ad hoc nuclear family, long, long after Herschel's farm is history.
Both Shane and Lori can get bitten, IMO. Lori is a whinny, skinny, PITA and I've not forgiven Shane for killing Otis. However, Shane was on it tonight! I thought of the 'Enough!' Obama sound clip.
Enjoyed the reveal of Sophia which was truly shocking, but the scene of them shooting one zombie after another as they leave the barn ? That was not so interesting and neither was all the talk, talk, talk in this episode.
Herschel said Otis did all the zombie wrangling. Shane took care of him before he told about Sophia
But one of the chicken-droppers should have seen her.
I wonder if Shane found Sophia ("with your tracking skills, why aren't you out looking for Sophia") and put her in the barn.
I think this is a great series. This episode was pretty fantastic.
I know/understand the complaints that the first seven episodes were slow. Notably, for a zombie Apocalypse series. But I think the shear volume of character development they've done is nothing but helpful. The characters are more complex and dynamic than at any time throughout the first season. Like Lost, "it's about the characters" at this point.
It was good to see Rick step up and do what had to be done. I'm kinda hoping for Shane to atone for his sins and just die already (which probably means he'll be with us for the rest of the season). Which is interesting because from what little I know from the graphic novel:
He's been long dead. Twice dead, even.
I think this show and Hell on Wheels are a great two hours of drama.
No matter what Lori told him, Shane will stubbornly believe the baby she is carrying is his. For that dramatic purpose alone, the writers will keep psycho Shane alive.
Loves the episode. The tension as Shane opened the barn was palpable. And even with all his zeal, Shane couldn't put down zombie Sophia. Rick had to step up to do it.
Yeah, despite his rhetoric to the contrary, Shane is all about the easy decisions, and Rick is all about the hard ones. It's easy to go psycho in a psycho world, and it's hard to stubbornly cling to your humanity. As to which is the right way to go, obviously from these threads there's a lot of room for debate.
Personally, for all his idiot moves I'd like to shake Rick's hand, and however often he might be tactically correct I'd like to put a bullet in Shane's head.
Which I guess makes me more of a psycho Shane than a humane Rick?
Leading up to this episode, I had been feeling like the search for Sophia, and the side plot with the barn, had been dragging on overlong, that it could have been addressed in fewer and faster-paced episodes. With hindsight, I can now see better why it was done as it was. This episode really gelled everything together well and had the pacing been faster it wouldn't have worked as well.
Still, I would have liked Sophia's character to have been better developed - maybe included in that flashback when Lori and Shane are stuck on the highway near Atlanta and see it napalmed, or maybe even a few present-day scenes during this season, of her lost in the woods. Anything to build viewer sympathy, which would have made the ultimate reveal that much more powerful.
Strong and enjoyable episode, nevertheless. I was really wondering there if Dale would shoot Shane out of self-preservation, despite his spoken argument that such a life is not worth living.
I agree with a lot of Shane's decisions. Including killing Otis.
I was kind of hoping Shane would beat the snot out of Dale for taking the guns. I can understand Herschel's reasoning for not wanting a bunch of people carrying firearms on his farm. Accidents happen, and arguments can turn deadly quick.
However keeping walkers in the barn is not rational, and all it takes is for one to somehow get out to start a chain of events that could kill many.
I'm sick of Dale, way too sanctimonious. I don't like Shane but agreed with what he did in this ep.
Once the search for the girl was on Herschel could have told them he found her dead or something and he could have produced a body for them since he could have killed her.
Even if there was a "cure" by the time your body had dried out, rotted, gotten injuries, I would think that the removal of the virus would just allow you to pass away rather quickly.