Walking Dead "Last Day On Earth" 4/3/16 S06E16

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  1. Apr 4, 2016 #61 of 182

    JohnB1000 Well-Known Member

    Dec 6, 2004


    Never before last week to be more specific (since it was in the previously on :))

    Getting the guy they hung from the first spot to the bridge was rather unlikely, how did they know which route would be taken?

    Suddenly there are no zombies in the woods :)

    I realize that I rather enjoy the show while watching it but the more I think about it afterwards the more it falls apart, this is not the case with shows like Better Call Saul or Breaking Bad (at least until the last episode).
  2. Apr 4, 2016 #62 of 182

    MikeMar Go Pats

    Jan 7, 2005
    Love that they have The Saviors and there are those guys that look like Knights

    Going very old school style :)

    Getting that guy to the bridge, apparently Rick and Co went like every possible route, so the group waiting at the logs and bridge just waited and then hung the guy
  3. Apr 4, 2016 #63 of 182

    Maui Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2000
    Decatur, IL
    This is a TV show though. They also are probably concerned about ratings. In order of how big a cop out it would be it would probably go Rosita, Aaron, Sasha, Eugene, Abraham.

    Of the characters you mentioned, Glenn would be my guess. They have been teasing him dying all season.

    Maggie - Why kill someone who is sick and already looks like she may die?

    Daryl - Probably unkillable due to his popularity, plus he is a great ambassador for the show at Conventions and such. Plus will the network bet on a new show for a actor whose character is dead?

    Michonne - Outside chance, but only if they want to push Rick into utter despair.
  4. Apr 4, 2016 #64 of 182

    Zevida witless and unarmed TCF Club

    Nov 8, 2003
    San Jose, CA
    Another guess - we won't even know who died until the end of the first episode. We will pick up at a later point and gradually throughout the episode we will see each of these characters one by one until only two are left unknown, then we'll flash back to that night.

    I really hope we don't have to see the beating though.
  5. Apr 4, 2016 #65 of 182

    DreadPirateRob Seriously?

    Nov 11, 2002


    I was kind of eh about this ep, especially as I think about it more.

    I don't have a real issue with the cliffhanger - it's slightly annoying but also expected from this show.

    I do have an issue with the Saviors being both omniscient and apparently able to apparate anywhere at will like a character from Harry Potter. Even if they have spies watching Alexandria, they have no way of knowing where Rick's gang is going (sure, they will eventually go to Hilltop, but how long are you going to wait for them to do that - they obviously can't know about Maggie's medical emergency) and they can't possibly stake out every possible route in the area leading out of Alexandria, even with spies w/radios.
  6. Apr 4, 2016 #66 of 182
    Johnny Dancing

    Johnny Dancing Closet Rebel

    Sep 3, 2000
    Yeah, didn't like this ending and now have to wait for spring and summer to pass me by for the story to continue.

    Does the Negan group even know where Alexandria is? If so, why didn't they plunder it long ago?

    Anyway, there is a Forbes article on ways to improve the Walking Dead.

    I think the best suggestion is that it is time to move completely away from the comic book story line.

    Comic book stories leave lot's of fill in the blanks to one's imagination so they can get away with some crazy things.

    On an hour per week TV show we get more story depth which results in magical warriors and illogical decisions to make the comic story happen. Square peg round hole.

    He also has a few other suggestions that make some sense.

  7. Apr 4, 2016 #67 of 182

    wprager Well-Known Member

    Feb 19, 2006
    Ottawa, Canada
    Overall, I was disappointed. None of the characters have made much sense for the last 2-3 episodes. Carol leaving. Daryl leaving. Rick/Morgan/Michonne/etc all leaving. Daryl getting easily outwitted by Dwight. Carol getting her balls cut off. Not turning back after the first road block (or not simply driving through the first road block -- haven't any of them ever seen Mad Max? The should have souped up the RV a long time ago to allow it to smash through a couple of cars/bikes).

    A character like Negan maybe was good in the comics but there's no way someone like that survives for long in this environment. He wasn't nearly charismatic enough to avoid getting his throat slit during the night -- or during his monologueing -- by one of the *many* he has recruited/indoctrinated while killing their friends/family in a very violent manner.

    Also, why didn't any of them think of saying "Well, you guys already killed our doctor, so can we just say we're even?"
  8. Apr 4, 2016 #68 of 182

    wprager Well-Known Member

    Feb 19, 2006
    Ottawa, Canada
    Oh, and if it wasn't all that clear from my post, I really have to say that, after all the buildup, I was quite disappointed with Negan. He talked way too much. Wasn't at all charismatic in my opinion. The Governor was much more menacing.
  9. Apr 4, 2016 #69 of 182

    Dawghows Liberal Elitist

    May 17, 2001
    I had trouble buying into Negan's bada$$ery in the comics, and so far I feel the same about him on the show. As someone else said above, in the situation they're in, if your claim to fame is a good spiel and a baseball bat, it doesn't seem like it would take very long for a disgruntled employee to come along with an automatic rifle and end you.
  10. Apr 4, 2016 #70 of 182

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista TCF Club

    Nov 22, 2008
    Boring Ohio
    I didn't know what to expect at all. I know nothing of the comics and read zero spoilers other than casting. That said, I think we are supposed to hate him, he's the worst person they've had to face thus far, no? Well I didn't hate him. I thought he was pretty awesome. Now that might be my already existing fondness of JDM but I'm honestly shocked you didn't find him charismatic. I found him far too charming to be as menacing as we're to believe he is. Maybe that was their intention.

    (also his teeth are so very white I was taken out of the scene for a second)
  11. Apr 4, 2016 #71 of 182

    markz Well-Known Member

    Oct 22, 2002
    Maybe you are just a psychopath!
  12. Apr 4, 2016 #72 of 182

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista TCF Club

    Nov 22, 2008
    Boring Ohio
    Been called worse! :)
  13. Apr 4, 2016 #73 of 182

    ej42137 Well-Known Member

    Feb 15, 2014
    Los Angeles
    There are far too many examples from history of leaders who used fear and terror to stay in power to object that Negan's methods would not be effective. (Stalin, Baby Doc, Pol Pot, Sonny Barger, ...)

    Killing the leaders is exactly what happens in these situations; leaders make the poorest slaves and are likely to be a center of resistance. The only thing keeping Rick alive in this situation is TV logic.

    As far as magic goes, Negan's magic consists of scouts, radios, reliable transport and organization. He is running a well-oiled machine and his people aren't making stupid mistakes.

    Candidates for Lucille:
    • Not any of the women, except possibly Maggie. There were no women in the attack group; either they are a protected class under Negan or property. (Not consistent with what we saw at the radio station, I know.)
    • Not Rick Grimes, this isn't British TV. (Except, Andrew is a British actor and he's probably really tired of the weather and bugs in the American south...)
    • Not Carl, he's already lost an eye and suffered Negan's threat. (Except he and Maggie are the least likely to be good producers for Negan...)
    • Not Daryl, the Internet would riot! (But he was on the very next Talking Dead, and we all know what that means!)
    So, I have eliminated it down to anyone. It's going to be a long summer.

    P.S. Welcome back, PhotoShopGrl! You have been missed!
    Last edited: Apr 4, 2016
  14. Apr 4, 2016 #74 of 182

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista TCF Club

    Nov 22, 2008
    Boring Ohio

    • That's precisely why I think it's a woman. To him they are worth less. Except maybe Michonne. He probably figures Maggie is close to dying anyhow so why waste the swing. I'm still betting on Sasha. I don't want to wait months to find out though. I know on the Talking Dead they said the camera was purposefully evasive knowing everyone would immediately try to figure it out but they also said there were hints. Thoughts on what those hints are? I need to watch it again.

      And thanks!!! I've missed chatting about my shows. I've come on to read old threads just to be validated on what I think is going on while I'm catching up but it's so much more fun to engage while the discussion happens.
  15. Apr 4, 2016 #75 of 182

    JohnB1000 Well-Known Member

    Dec 6, 2004
    One of the worst aspects of the cliffhanger is that we are likely to find out who died before the episode airs with all the leaks.

    It seems all the major web based reviewers hated this. The much loved Sepinwall claimed to be done with the show :)

    I like the Reddit user's storyboard for next season

  16. Apr 4, 2016 #76 of 182

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    We have to have a flashback episode in there showing the events leading up to the end of this episode from the point of view of Daryl/Glenn/Rosita/Michonne. So that pushes the reveal back to at least Episode 7.

  17. Apr 4, 2016 #77 of 182

    2004raptor time to emancipate

    Dec 30, 2005
    And don't forget the flashback of the walker hanging in the antenna/radio tower. :rolleyes:

  18. Apr 4, 2016 #78 of 182

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista TCF Club

    Nov 22, 2008
    Boring Ohio
    How are you forgetting the side story of how girl gets out of the closet.
  19. Apr 4, 2016 #79 of 182

    dswallow Save the Moderatоr TCF Club

    Dec 3, 2000
    Anyone here actually driven in Alexandria, Virginia?

    Apocalypse or not, there's just no way there's but half a dozen "routes" in some 12-20 mile radius of anyplace in Alexandria.

    Well, maybe if zombies ate asphalt and pooped trees.
  20. Apr 4, 2016 #80 of 182

    waldingrl Active Member

    Jan 19, 2005
    Thank you! My son thought the exact same thing!! :)

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