Walking Dead - Episode 2 - OAD 11/07/2010

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  1. Maui

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    I find myself wondering just how inept the miltary were/are in this universe? A group of civilians do well killing zombies with pistols, baseball bats and axes but somehow the military guy in the TANK got killed?

    I love the show but it just makes me wonder.
     
  2. BradJW

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    Only 4 more episodes?
    Is this a Mini-series, or just a short season?

    I'm loving it so far.
     
  3. Maui

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    Just a short season if I remember correctly it has been mentioned that AMC ordered a season 2 (13 episodes maybe)
     
  4. Rob Helmerichs

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    OK, 5 million. I guess that's more manageable. ;)
     
  5. Vendikarr

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    When I saw they were obstructed from getting into the sewers I thought that is where the grenade comes in.

    We probably won't see it again until it shows up in a "previously on...", so we know they are going to use it.
     
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    I kinda wondered the same thing at one point. I'm guessing that the zombies use to be in much greater concentration. There was probably a lot of noise and people centered in a certain area and they got overrun by a huge horde.

    Then when the people were gone the zombies started dispersing, so they're not concentrated in that area like they where when the army was there.
     
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    Only slightly on topic. The show has me wanting to reread WWZ and I was in B&N yesterday and it was on their B2G1 shelf. Got kinda excited then couldn't find 2 more books to make the deal worth it.
     
  8. nrrhgreg

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    Well, that's just one reason a zombie apocalypse, you know, assuming zombies could actually exist, would fail before it got going. Cracked.com has 6 other reasons (semi not safe for work for some language I guess) http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html

    But for the sake of TV and movies we just overlook how it spreads and just accept that it did.
     
  9. john4200

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    That's not how odor works. Some animals are good at detecting and following specific scents. But I am not aware of any animals who are good at detecting the lack of an odor in a given direction. The show's explanation was confused. It was not clear whether they meant to say that there is a specific odor that the living give off that the dead do not, or that the living simply lack the decaying flesh scent. If the former, then the gore ploy would not work, since the living would still be giving off the odor. If the latter, well, as I said, that is not how odor works. Release a bunch of foxes, and then try to get the bloodhound to scout in a direction where it does not smell fox. But that is not a good example -- it should be even tougher. Release a bunch of dogs, then get a pack of the same type of dogs to scout a direction that no dogs have gone. The point is that zombies, who are all over decaying flesh, and hunt in packs, could not determine that 10 yards over there, there is a lack of decaying flesh in the air in the immediate vicinity of that walker. I could believe that they might be able to detect it if they got in your face, but not from more than a few feet away.

    Telepathy, on the other hand, has no scientific explanation, so no need for it to be scientifically consistent.
     
  10. Rob Helmerichs

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    Zombies can smell fresh meat.

    The smell of fresh meat is drowned out by the stench of zombie entrails.
     
  11. john4200

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    Which is not how odor works. If "fresh meat" odor is drowned out by decaying flesh odor, then the zombies' own decaying flesh would prevent them from smelling "fresh meat".
     
  12. DreadPirateRob

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    Solid second ep. I was bit distracted by the zombie's use of tools (the rock to shatter the window), and the fact that some zombies can run apparently, but still very enjoyable, if not a little disgusting. :)

    With regard to zombie sense of smell - I think that's what they use short range to home in on their prey. Loud noise is what draws them to an area, but after they get there, their sense of smell draws them in.
     
  13. retrodog

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    I'm with John4200 here on this one and will just add...

    If zombies could sniff out live flesh from any distance at all, then hiding from them would never work. They would never walk past you, no matter what you were hiding behind (unless it was air tight of course). But this is not the response that we've seen in any zombie movie. They seem totally unaware of living presence till they see it and then become fixated. with where they last saw it (i.e., the door it walked through.)

    The rain incident was too contrived. And if anything, rain washes away scent. If the theory of the show held true, they should have hauled ass during the rain and the zombies would have had no clue they were alive. But I suspect that the zombies key in on non-staggering movement and anything running, so that wouldn't have actually worked.

    What I greatly suspect is that it really all boils down to "It's magic. Just get over it."

    :D
     
  14. aaronwt

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    Is that any different from the walking Dead?
    At least with the movie 28 days later, they weren't dead. Which makes much more sense. But then you have the issue where they will all eventually die from starvation. With walking dead they can move around indefinitely..
     
  15. DreadPirateRob

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    The key to staving off a zombie apocalypse is recognition and quarantine - i.e. how fast do you realize that a zombie outbreak has started, and can you seal off the area fast enough so that none of the infected get out. One of the many things we don't know about the strain of zombiedom in this universe is how long the incubation period is, and how long the zombie transition takes - can someone who has been bitten cover it up and act normal for a few hours? days? a week even? If someone just suffers a nip, does the incubation period take longer than it does if the zombie gets a mouthful? And then once the (presumed) virus takes over, how fast does someone go from human to flesh-craving zombie?

    And obviously in big cities where the population density is highest, the outbreak will spread fastest. Also, in those cities, the percentage of armed citizens is probably the lowest, and even the ones who are armed aren't going to be trained to react coolly and calmly under this type of unique stress. So once the outbreak starts, it can snowball to an uncontrollable level quickly, especially because most people aren't going to immediately recognize that a zombie outbreak has started until it is too late - like when their neighbor is chewing on their neck.
     
  16. retrodog

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    That's why I've promoted a new law for years. If you get bitten by anything at all, you get shot in the head.

    Most of the zombie movies that I've seen usually have the virus spreading because someone didn't want to have a loved one shot or killed just because they had a bad bite. In situations like that, I think they should be handcuffed to the infected person. So when they change, the person who is trying to protect them can better care for them. You know, feed them and the like. :D
     
  17. aaronwt

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    There would be no way to prevent the spread in a city except by a nuking the city.
    And if something like that were to happen in real life. Where a virus has a mortality and transmission rate of 100%. They better be nuking the city where it starts as quickly as possible to try and prevent the spread.
     
  18. Mike Wells

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    The folks responsible for the show had said "no running zombies" but they really came close this episode. They said they were using the first scene from the old "dawn of the dead" as their benchmark. I'm going to have to rewatch that.

    The smell think kinda bothered me, and they telegraphed the rain way too much. Err... now that I've said that - did they talk about the rain, or did they just hear thunder? I was watching that part with captions on - it might have SAID [thunder].

    I'm wondering - would the zombies naturally disperse? So, you shot up the neighborhood and the zombie party is going on outside - could you wait a day or two and they would find their way elsewhere?

    The rock bothered me more than anything else in this episode. Zombies using tools?
     
  19. DreadPirateRob

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    They didn't talk about the thunder or chance of rain at all. You just heard thunder in the distance several times - in fact, pretty much whenever they were up on the roof.

    That seemed to be what Morgan was doing in Rick's hometown - once the noise stops, they seemed to go back to doing whatever it was that they were doing - so stumbling and moaning, pretty much. :)

    Which, now that I think about it, is precisely what the Atlanta zombies were *not* doing. Even when there was no noise, and it seemed unlikely that the zombies could see into the gloom of the recesses of the department store, they were still trying to get it. That's pretty inconsistent with what we saw earlier.

    I guess you could try and explain it away with the ATL zombies being in a feeding frenzy with the horse? Kind of like sharks when blood gets in the water and they start acting in ways they don't normally act?

    Yeah, me too. Although we did see an example of Morgan's zombie wife trying to use a door handle. Not quite the same, but similar.
     
  20. spikedavis

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    Wow-there are nitpickers, and then there are nitpickers...and then there's these threads. :)
     

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