Walking Dead 3/11/12 "Better Angels"

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Rob Helmerichs, Mar 11, 2012.

  1. Mar 12, 2012 #21 of 295

    Maui Well-Known Member

    Apr 22, 2000
    Decatur, IL


    I thought it was interesting that Shane was going to shoot Rick in the middle of an open field instead of the seclusion of the woods.

    The Zombies at the end were looked like the were over a rise and down a hill based on how the camera had to elevate in order to see them.

    Looks like it will be a knockout finale.
  2. Mar 12, 2012 #22 of 295

    Ekims Don't care anymore

    Oct 18, 2002
    Yeah, bout...
    Not sure if anyone caught it or not, but T-Dog had a speaking role in last night's episode.
  3. Mar 12, 2012 #23 of 295

    MikeMar Go Pats

    Jan 7, 2005
    I think the Rick/Shane yelling for a bit didn't help in regards to zombies coming. Gun shot being the final straw.

    Are Glenn/Daryl still out there, are they on the other side of the zombies now?
  4. Mar 12, 2012 #24 of 295

    cheesesteak Meh. TCF Club

    Jul 24, 2003
    15 mins...
    Has Glen ever actually played that guitar?
  5. Mar 12, 2012 #25 of 295

    Roommate New Member

    Apr 23, 2003


    tvline.com posted an interview with showrunner Robert Kirkman after last night's episode that addresses this question:

    Full interview here. Might contain very mild spoilers for next week's finale.
  6. Mar 12, 2012 #26 of 295

    TiVotion Early Adoptersaurus

    Dec 6, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    I think he just tells Maggie he can. I've told girls I can do much more than that before.
  7. Mar 12, 2012 #27 of 295

    danterner Not it!

    Mar 4, 2005
    Greenacres, FL
    I saw it as a callback to that guy who they left propped up under a tree near the end of the first season (can't remover his name; he spent a whole episode digging what turned out to be graves...). While he was feverish and dying, he kept having the same flashes of zombies. So this was the director choreographing that Shane was turning. Is that more dramatic and suspenseful than showing it differently, where in one cut he's dead and in the next he's seen undead and standing behind Rick, to be blown away by Carl moments later? I think it is a judgment call. I like the way it was done, personally.

  8. Mar 12, 2012 #28 of 295

    madscientist Deregistered Snoozer

    Nov 12, 2003
    Lexington, MA
    "Oh hell no!" Nice one T-Dog!

    Remember there were two gunshots (Shane's gun went off when he was stabbed). And, the night before there was another gunshot (Dale's coup de grace). It could be that the zombies have been migrating towards the farmhouse for a while due to the noise but when the noise stops, they start wandering aimlessly until more noise starts them moving again. This time they were close enough to smell the blood and keep coming.

    Anyway, things like this and the time it takes Shane to turn don't bother me.
  9. Mar 12, 2012 #29 of 295

    Necromancer2006 Active Member

    Jan 26, 2008
    I don't think Shane ever really wanted to kill Rick. I think deep down, Shane wanted Rick to kill him. To put HIM out of his misery. He knew Lori would never love him like she loved Rick and that's all he wanted. Sort of a "death by cop" since he was too chicken to take his own life, or to just up and leave.

    Looked like a .45 that Carl had and the way he was holding it, there's no way he hits Shane at 20 meters, in the moonlight, square in the forehead. Why can't Carl just go away. Seriously - someone hand cuff him to a leash in the house and be done with him.

    I don't think there's any doubt anymore about needing to be bit/scratched. I really want to know now what the CDC guy told Rick.
  10. Mar 12, 2012 #30 of 295

    markz Well-Known Member

    Oct 22, 2002
    I almost posted the "suicide by cop" thing last night. I think that's what he did too. And then followed by "suicide by cop's son".
  11. Mar 12, 2012 #31 of 295
    Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    What I found almost more interesting is how Shane's heavy breathing during his last encounter with Rick sounded subliminally (or not so subliminally) like zombie noises...I guess the point being, he was already the walking dead.
  12. Mar 12, 2012 #32 of 295

    ihatecable Crazy Collies

    Apr 16, 2003
    Long Island,NY
    If I recall correctly didn't the CDC guy say that the "resurrection event" could take place as little as 3 minuets and as long as 16 hours depending on the individual?
  13. Mar 12, 2012 #33 of 295

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista TCF Club

    Nov 22, 2008
    Boring Ohio
    Didn't Jenner tell them the metamorphosis from death to reanimation ranged from as little as 3 mins to as long as 9 hours or something like that? I would guess they used the low number for storyline purpose here and I'm okay with that.

    If it's not returned to Darryl at the beginning of the next episode, I'm going to be looking for it to be a problem and for Darryl to almost die because of it before the episode is over.

    :eek: teehee

    I could buy this except for the fact that we spent several scenes earlier this episode showing them all going around the fence-line killing off random zombies.

    Overall, the exceeded my expectations. I did not think Shane would go out like that. I did read the stupid DVD thing from AMC's site so I knew Shane was a goner by season's end I just figured it would be in the finale. I honestly in my head thought after all his craziness they'd let him go out a hero or some such nonsense (i.e. saving Darryl from a zombie when his missing gun was needed or something). This was soooo much more satisfying. I do agree with whoever said they think Shane wanted Rick to kill him. I think he needed Rick to prove he was man enough to do what needs to be done and if Rick couldn't do that then he didn't deserve to live and have his family. The reanimation was a given with Carl shooting him only because sadly, I have, by mistake, read someone on this board referring to how Shane dies in the comics. Oh well.
  14. Mar 12, 2012 #34 of 295

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista TCF Club

    Nov 22, 2008
    Boring Ohio
    Damnit! I was creating my reply while you replied! :mad:
  15. Mar 12, 2012 #35 of 295

    cheesesteak Meh. TCF Club

    Jul 24, 2003
    15 mins...
    Did Carl shoot Shane in the forehead? Wouldn't that have destroyed his brain and prevented him from turning.

    I didn't like Shane much at all but the home team is down two able bodied men in two days. That can't be a good thing.
  16. Mar 12, 2012 #36 of 295

    photoshopgrl Nerd Fashionista TCF Club

    Nov 22, 2008
    Boring Ohio
    Are you asking about the comic because otherwise, I don't understand this question.
  17. Mar 12, 2012 #37 of 295

    MikeMar Go Pats

    Jan 7, 2005
    Carl shot Shane AFTER he turned, in the forehead, which kills zombies/walkers/whatever else you want to call them :D
  18. Mar 12, 2012 #38 of 295

    cheesesteak Meh. TCF Club

    Jul 24, 2003
    15 mins...
    Damn. That was a stupid question. My really dumb twin brother steaksandwich posted that under my userid.
  19. Mar 12, 2012 #39 of 295

    Pralix Well-Known Member

    Dec 8, 2001
    Seattle, WA
    My theory on the origin and life of the virius is this:

    The virus was a pandemic that infected everyone. It killed most people it infected quickly. Those that survived had a natural resistance to it and kept it at bay until they die. Between infection and death, the virus battles the immune system and mutates. When death occurs, there is no immune system to stave off the virus and the infected becomes a zombie.

    Just my 2 cents.
  20. Mar 12, 2012 #40 of 295

    Barmat Member

    Jun 1, 2001
    Livermore CA
    Sounds good to me. I don't try to hold zombie shows to close to reality because after all it's a ZOMBIE show. A little reality is good but nitpicking is just a waste.

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