VIDEO: TiVo Series 3 First Look (GearLive.com)

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  1. sbrown23

    sbrown23 New Member

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    Great video! :droooool: The Series 3 looks awesome ... just about everything that I wanted in a S3! From the external storage, to the integrated ethernet, to the dual tuner HD cable recording, and better performance. Looks like most of the stuff I was looking for way back in August 2004 has made it in (see here - http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=191860 ) ... some yet to be determined.

    Wow, just WOW.

    The long wait continues ........... :( Here's hoping for July 1 release (yeah, that's second half of '06) and a price of about $500. Should I put the crack pipe down?
     
  2. TiVoPony

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    Hey, look at me. :)

    You might have mentioned that I checked and corrected my own 300GB mistake when we were done shooting. What can I say, it was a long day. ;)

    And regarding the display...yes, the display of show names was canned. We could have spent our time making the display work ever so, but we prioritized making the DVR stuff work first. Call us crazy.

    But that display is so integral to the look and feel of the box that we had to put something up there. It's a prototype.

    Cheers,
    Pony
     
  3. Bierboy

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    Why? Because some who were there said that TiVo folks "unofficially" mentioned those figures. But, everything, and I mean everything that is mentioned, pricewise, is pure, unadulterated speculation. My guess is somewhere between $500 and $1,500 ;) .

    ...or stop sipping the Koolaid.
     
  4. TiVoPony

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    I was surprised to read that too. I'm pretty sure that I'm still saying "second half 2006" in my sleep. Don't know where he'd get the impression it was anything else.

    Second half 2006.

    No pricing announced. But it will be more than $49.

    Pony
     
  5. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    That's too bad, it would have been a handy feature. But the display is still there right? So it could possibly be added at a later date as a software upgrade?

    Dan
     
  6. Dr. Bob

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    Is the plan to make the S3 work with the DISH satellite network HD feed? I really dislike the software in the DISH 942 HD DVR and would love to switch to TiVo!
     
  7. ChuckyBox

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    Maybe he was just applying the filter you usually have to apply when a company says something like "second half 2006."

    But some of us think that a certain CEO would be very, very disappointed if this thing isn't available in quantity before the holidays. And we're pretty sure nobody wants to disappoint the new CEO.

    And definitely less that $10,000? Can you commit to that? ;)
     
  8. ChuckyBox

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    I think he was saying that it was "canned" in the sense that it wasn't a working feature, but "out of a can." Not that it was "axed" or "eighty-sixed." They just didn't have the resources to make it work with the prototype hardware in time for the show. It will be part of the final product.
     
  9. headroll

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    Oddly enough on Day 1 they wouldn't let anyone touch the remote, but on the following days they finally were allowing it. It appears that the person originally intended to show the box had fallen ill and a number of people were taking turns demo'ing the box.

    -Roll
     
  10. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    No this will NOT work with Dish or DirecTV. It is designed around the ATSC and CableCARD specifications and will only record programs from either cable or over the air antenna. In fact, technologically speaking, it's not even possible for TiVo to build a device that will work with Dish HD. Unless of course Dish partners with them and allows them to develop software for their proprietary hardware/encryption scheme. (like DirecTV did)

    The reason they were able to develop this unit for cable systems is because a couple years ago the FCC passes some legislation that forced cable companies to adopt a standard called CableCARD for encryption. That way consumers can buy 3rd party equipment like this and all the proprietary encryption stuff is stored on the card you rent from the cable company for a couple of dollars.

    Dan
     
  11. jae

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    are there any plans to offer the subscription transfer option that was done with the series2? i'd definately be more inclined to become an early adopter with that as an incentive, esp if the unit is expensive.
     
  12. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I doubt it. They did that for the S2 units because the S2 units provided them with an opportunity to cut costs by converting people from phone lines to network adapters. Plus, shortly after the promotion is when they started selling HMO which provided them with an opportunity to recoupe some of that loss. From a subscription/support cost stand point these new S3 units will be no different then a S2 unit, so there is really no incentive for them to offer service transfers.

    That being said you should still be able to sell your S2 TiVo with lifetime for $300+ on eBay, which will result in enough to get lifetime on the new S3. :)

    Dan
     
  13. BillyT2002

    BillyT2002 Crush!Kill!Destroy!

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    I think that at this point the FCC should mandate that the DBS providers are required to build a Satcard which conforms to the same standards created by Cablelabs (form factor, communications protocol(s), etc). (It could even still use a smart card for authentication which plugs into the Satcard).

    I know that the DBS companies probably figure it is not in their best interest to do something like this, but I don't care. If the cable companies are forced to do it, then the DBS companies should be forced to do it to.

    It would be great for us consumers as then we would be able to get DISH Network, DirecTV or cable service in the TIVO series 3.

    And, it could be argued that anything that allows a user to easily get a service from a company, then makes that companies service more marketable and thus is good thing for the company; whether the company thinks so or not.
     
  14. Stainless Steele

    Stainless Steele Wake-Maker!

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    All I can say is I'm ready to buy today!!!!!!! This is going to be awesome! I would really love this unit with a DVD-R to replace my pioneer units but I guess I'll take what I can get.
     
  15. mattack

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    As a video ipod download? or a quicktime movie download?
     
  16. Glen Graham

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    "After Thanksgiving"...







    (for those who remember waiting for software version 2.0.....)
     
  17. mrmike

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    I'm just hoping they let me xfer from my old-language "lifetime" Series 1 since the modem in it just went wonky.

    -MM
     
  18. TiVoPony

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    Interesting reading, but all fiction I'm afraid.

    Chalk it up to first-day caution. I instructed the crew not to put that remote down under any circumstances lest it grow legs and disappear. We'd only brought a few of them to the show, and they are shiny, new, and easily transportable.

    And my caution was wise. Although we didn't lose a remote, someone stole a boxed wireless adapter, right from the coffee table in front of that demo. There are all kinds of people in the world. :(

    Nobody fell ill. I suspect that you may have heard mention of the product manager not being at the show. He couldn't make the show due to a prior engagement - he was getting married. Of course some folks might call that 'falling ill' (but not me!). :)

    And...all of my friends from TC that came to say hi got to use the new remote. No problem. ;)

    Pony
     
  19. TiVoPony

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    Dan is absolutely wrong. ;)

    All I meant was that the displayed shows didn't match the guide data. We haven't hooked that part of the code up to drive the panel yet. Details, details. Second half 2006.

    The display is in there, and it will list the program on each tuner.

    Pony
     
  20. megazone

    megazone Hardcore TiVo Geek

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    Nice video. And thanks for the mention Pony. :)
     

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