Video problems after upgrade

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by dbsanders, Jun 14, 2005.

  1. Ronin

    Ronin New Member

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    Good point. I did actually turn Write Verify off after the tests and before I used it in the TiVo.

    Also set Accoustic Management to Quite originally. Set it back to Performance, and the pauses were reduced, but they were still there.
     
  2. kdawg

    kdawg New Member

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    I thought the Maxtor setup was getting better over time also but I wasn't sure if it was my imagination and didn't want to be without my Tivo long enough to leave them in. Perhaps I'll look more into the write verification thing. I still think they may work....or hoping they'll work.

    So my question is how do I turn off the verification? And for that matter any other functions that may be running.

    I guess this would is a lessen in rebate tactics. I was too quick in mailing in the rebates now I can't return them.

    Or perhaps I'll just return the Maxtors and go to BestBuy and pick up the Westerns. called OfficeDepot and they said they would give me a refund minus the rebates.
     
  3. kdawg

    kdawg New Member

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    Yup, broke down and bought the Westers Digitals. They work like a charm.
     
  4. Dkerr24

    Dkerr24 Lost in Big Bend

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    Thanks for the heads up... I'm going to stay away from the Maxtors for Tivo use.
     
  5. sonofsnood

    sonofsnood New Member

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    yeah, I'm starting to think maxtor's suck for Tivo use, my last Tivo series one was upgraded with WD's and I never had any problems, my pc has 2 WD caviars and no problems

    when I opened up my Humax, I saw the 80gb Maxtor and thought, well, if I put another maxtor in there, it wouldn't hurt...
     
  6. lutefisk

    lutefisk New Member

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    Just to chime in:
    I just upgraded my tivo with a L01R300. That's a Diamodmax10 300GB with 16MB cache. It's a bit of overkill for a tivo, but I thought I had gotten a pretty good deal on it.

    Anyway, there is a bit of stuttering during live tv. Sometime it goes away when watching with a few seconds of delay (using the 7 sec back button), sometimes it doesn't. TiVo is watchable though.

    I'm formating the drive and taking it back ASAP though.

    The original Maxtor was a diamondmax plus 8. On the drive it says +12V 790mA, +5V 647mA.

    The new drive is rated at +12V 1520 mA, +5V 740 mA.
    I wonder if the extra power draw is too much for the cheap power supply in the tivo.
     
  7. formulaben

    formulaben Formula Tivo Racing

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    I have the same Maxtor problem. Will try to swap drives and see if there are any improvements.
     
  8. MMMQ74

    MMMQ74 New Member

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    Ready to pull my 200GB Maxtor from my Series 2. I see that I have 2 options:

    1. Pull the 200GB Maxtor - replace with 120GB Seagate that I have in a portable USB case.

    2. Pull the 200GB Maxtor - replace with 40GB that came with the Tivo and add 120GB Seagate.

    Anybody have any thoughts about running dual drives? Any extra HW needed to pull the 2 drive install off?

    Thanks much!
     
  9. Silver 96 Z28

    Silver 96 Z28 New Member

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    This is not a post a wanted to see. :( I upgraded my TIVO to a 200GB Maxtor drive just the other day and I am having the same problem. I was hoping it was something in the way I upgraded, but I guess not. :mad:
     
  10. Silver 96 Z28

    Silver 96 Z28 New Member

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    Anyone been able to figure out a solution for the Maxtor drives? Or is the only solution to switch to a Western Digital or Seagate drive?
     
  11. kdawg

    kdawg New Member

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    I would say return the Maxtor if at all possible. I looked for weeks and tried everything to get the Maxtors to work. In the end the only solution I found was to return the Maxtors and get a pair or Westerns. The best I can guess are the Maxtors were using more juice than the power supply could deliver. The Maxtors use much more than the Westerns.....but that IS just a guess.

    Good Luck.
     
  12. bananaman

    bananaman Member

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    I too tried to upgrade with a 200GB Maxtor DiamondMax 10 drive and all I got was stuttering video and a lot of wasted time. Switched to Seagate and everything ran perfectly first time. Andrew.
     
  13. Sam FT

    Sam FT New Member

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    Will I got four Maxtor DiamondMax 10 160GB sometime back when OfficeDepot had them for $40 after rebates. I installed them into two refurb new Series2. So I used Weaknees LBA cd for the upgrade. After running through the Setup Guide I went to System Info to see what software that came with it. Which it was 5.3 on both. So I started watching live TV and yes the video was choppy on both. But on one of my TiVo was ready for the new software 7.1 and I upgraded it and after it installed and reboot the TiVO I havn't had single problem with the video on that TiVo. The other one is still waiting for the software update. So I think it is a few reason why people have a problem with the Maxtor drivers. Either doing a reboot works or upgrade to the newer 7.1 software which may handle bigger drives better. But again it could just that I am lucky to have TiVo work with the Maxtor with out a problem. So I will have see and find out on my second TiVo 7.1 software upgrade and see if the problem still continues.
     
  14. c3

    c3 TiVoholic

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    The four drives you got may have different firmware. You can check them on the drive label. Only the more recent version(s) have problems.
     
  15. Sam FT

    Sam FT New Member

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    I got the drives back about little over a month ago. So it hasn't been that long ago. But I find it funny that two Maxtor DiamondMax 10 in my first refub Series had choppy video and after a software 7.1 upgrade the video was fine. But again I will have to wait and find out and see if that is the case with my second refub Series2 after the software 7.1 upgrade.
     
  16. kdawg

    kdawg New Member

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    Just a follow up note on my original post. It seems that one of the Western drives I used to replace the Maxtors with is starting to fail according to the kernel log file. Specifically the B drive. I have yet to stick in my PC to run the factory diagnostics. The setup with the two Western drives worked flawlessly for weeks then suddenly the video started to freeze. I'm holding out hope that the PSU (power supply unit) is failing and am waiting for a replacement. The Tivo is 4 or 5 years old and have read that PSUs don't tend to last much longer than that. If the new PSU doesn't arrive soon I may just pull them.

    Just another thing to consider when deciding on what brand drive to purchase.
     
  17. Sam FT

    Sam FT New Member

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    Well I finally got the update for the 7.1 software of my second refub TiVo 540040. And that did the trick once it was updated the choppy video every 7 seconds and freezing went away. So I if you are have a problem I would highly update your TiVo box to 7.1 software. Course that won't always fix the problem just an option to consider when faced with this freezing problem.
     
  18. Sunapee

    Sunapee New Member

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    Any idea how this applies with DirectTV Tivo? Is it a safe assumption that v6.2 will also alleviate the potential problem with Maxtor 10?
     
  19. joneskl

    joneskl New Member

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    Just to confirm what other have said. I bought a Maxtor Diamondmax drive to do the upgrade. The video is very choppy, stutters, etc. I know it's not anything with the drive image, tivo hardware, etc. I did the same setup on a Seagate drive and it worked fine. Did the same setup on a WD drive, worked fine. Did the same setup again on a Maxtor, bad video.
    I also swapped this Maxtor drive with a WD I had in a Windows MCE machine. The Tivo worked fine with the WD. I put the Maxtor in my MCE machine. Guess what? The "Live TV" video in my MCE machine is now very choppy. Along with playing back previously recorded shows.
    The Maxtor works fine for storage so I using it as a storage space but there is obviously something "different" about these Maxtors and video.
    Just my 2 cents.
     

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