Very Tempted with new Sky+HD Offer

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by Glen, Jan 29, 2009.

  1. britcub

    britcub Bear with a TiVo

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    With all due respect Pete, where TCM chooses to educate his children is none of your business, and it's extremely rude to ask about it and make assumptions.
     
  2. Pete77

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    If TCM didn't want us to know the reason for his house move to a non Sky reception friendly location being largely due to wanting to be in a favourable catchment area for the right schools then I am sure he wouldn't have told us.

    He would just have said something like SWMBO particularly fell in love with this very pretty house or something similar.

    With respect britcub it is actually for TCM and not for you to take exception to my comments about his schooling arrangements if he actually objects to my making such comments.
     
  3. TCM2007

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    I don't P2P films, software or music, and no-one is currently that bothered about TV. There are only tiny numbers of cases being brought, and they are all for warez, music CDs or DVD RIPs, bought by their respective software federations. As there is no direct financial loss to a US broadcaster they have no incentive to take UK people to court, and while Sky might argue that they do have a financial loss, there is no copyright violation against them. Sky should be more worried about the myriad of sites which rebroadcast the live Sky stream; any live football game can be watched for free if you've a mind t.

    Not for a while, although I get a 7,616K downlink speed already. I can pull down HD in better than real time quite often.
     
  4. Pete77

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    You ought to get 14,000k or more under ADSL2+ then.

    Plusnet have been trying to entice me with a very cheap Broadband Your Way Option 1 deal for one year with 10Gb per month and unlimited downloads from midnight to 8am. Transferring phone line rental across is part of the deal.

    After allowing for the phone line rental that I pay anyway and cashbacks and discounts for the first 3 months it comes out at an average of £3.50 per month for the broadband in the whole of the first year. However unfortunately I seem to use about 15Gb per month these days just watching some live streaming stuff and using an internet radio and although I expect I could moderate my use I suspect that some of my streaming viewing would be throttled before I even got near the 10Gb with Plusnet. Its still a very cheap deal for a non LLU exchange area for broadband though. Far cheaper than TalkTalk, Sky or Tiscali on this non LLU exchange. It also includes free evening and weekend calls too.

    However as I am based at home 7 days a week and broadband is a key essential lifeline I eventually decided that cheapest is not always best.
     
  5. TCM2007

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    I'm on PlusNet BBYW, and they don't throttle, they just charge you and extra £1.50 per Gb (or whatever it is).
     
  6. Pete77

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    I suspect you are on Option 3 or Option 4 though where throttling is much less, especially overnight when there is no download quantity limit. Throttling is a lot greater on Option 1.

    See www.kitz.co.uk/isp/plusnet_shaping.htm for more info on this topic.

    I might still give it a try were this not a one year contract with big penalties for early termination.
     
  7. TCM2007

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    I only P2P midnight to 8am, so I've not noticed any shaping.
     
  8. dunkan

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    With all the talk of HD and what's available, has no one else experienced an upscaling PVR? My Panny upscales SD TV to 1080p - /almost/ as good as the Freesat HD picture - certainly far, far better than 'normal' TV. Upscaling is surely one more thing a new Tivo will need...
     
  9. TCM2007

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    There's a lot of BS about upscaling. If you have a 1080 TV and feed it digitally with an SD (576) signal it will always be upscaled (unless you're watching a little picture floating in the middle!). The question is, will it be upscaled by the TV or upscaled by the STB. Which is better depends entirely on which one happens to have the best electronics. It's not automatically best to have the STB do it.
     
  10. cyril

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    If you have a Pioneer 9th gen or Fujitsu xha58 or better you will probably (99%) be better off letting the screen upscale it.

    An expensive screen (Pioneer 9th gen or Fujitsu xha58 or B&O or Aviamo or Planar/ Vidikron) usually has hundreds or even thousands of pounds worth of upscaling equipment in it, whereas 99% of STBs use the cheapest possible upscaler, maybe 70 quids worth at best.

    External scalers (e.g. Lumagen and DVDO) cost around the £700 to 4 grand mark. Some of these are built into the pricier (above 1k) AV processor amps.

    If you have a cheap TV than you will just have to see if it upscales better than your STB by trial and error.
     
  11. britcub

    britcub Bear with a TiVo

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    The point was about your rudeness and your constant floating into fantasy worlds with your uninformed assumptions, Pete. But I should have realised that you are always right and can't accept criticism, as your record speaks for itself.

    I'm well aware that TCM doesn't need me to defend him - he does an excellent job of putting you in your place almost daily.
     
  12. iankb

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    Vista MCE happily upscales SD broadcasts and recordings to my full-HD TV over HDMI.

    I'm extremely impressed by the results, though whether it is VMC, the video drivers, or the video card that does this, I can't say. Probably not the former, since it doesn't seem to consume much CPU.

    I tried connecting my TiVo to the TV (before the TiVo broke), and the result was, in comparison, pretty appalling. 'Though that's what you might expect with a SCART connection.
     
  13. B33K34

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    Any recommendations on what material to test it on? I've a Pioneer 4280 (8th gen - 1024x768 resolution so it will ALWAYS be doing some scaling internally) but my Sony amp will scale (2400ES), my blu ray player will scale and the Humax HDR will scale. At the moment I run the blu ray at 1080 and let the Pioneer scale down from that.
     
  14. cyril

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    I'd start with poorer quality sources (e.g. ITV SD on Sky) as the difference is more noticeable.
    Any fast moving sports and any dark movie where detail can be easily lost.
     
  15. DeadKenny

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    I stuck with the old Premier package rather the falling for BBYW as Premier has a much longer off-peak (12am to 4pm instead of 12am to 8am). Throttling can occur outside of this (on P2P only generally) but doesn't count towards peak limits, unlike with BBYW.

    For no throttling the only option is BBYW Pro, but there are other limits instead.

    I'm happy enough with relatively unrestricted 12am to 4pm though, and at least it's a reliable connection unlike god-awful NTL (now Virgin Media), and Plus are at least open about their throttling etc. I prefer openness to blanket denial (NTL again and others).
     

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