Very Tempted with new Sky+HD Offer

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by Glen, Jan 29, 2009.

  1. Glen

    Glen New Member

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    I've decided to go for it aswell! I have a 2 to 3 week lead time now! I'm quite looking forward to it, as i'm a big watcher of Sky1, FX and Sci-Fi, but i am gonna keep my tivo running for the SD stuff. Star Trek, Stargate SG-1, Bones to name but a few in HD wow! Can't wait! I would of course be bouncing round the room if it were a TiVo controlled one lol!
     
  2. DeadKenny

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    £10 a month would be more worth it if we had the kind of HD channels that the US has. 50+ or so HD channels. In particular stuff like A&E, Fox, Cartoon Network, Comedy Central, Sci Fi, HBO. Even their local news stations are in HD! (so you can see those police chases in HD of course :D).

    We don't even get Sci Fi in SD widescreen in this country! :( (yeah I know we have an HD Sci Fi channel, but there's crap all on it. Though it's a poor channel compared to the US version anyway even in SD).

    Yeah I know we have a pile of Sky movie and sports HD channels, but I don't count them as proper channels. I mean channels with fresh new TV content. Besides Sky charge extra for those, most of the US channels come as standard (HBO being an exception).
     
  3. Wilf

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    Is this just another ploy to get rid of us, threads are about saying the Sky+ HD boxes may not come with scart??

    Anyone confirm latest boxes being fitted have scart as a few of us seem to be tempted and have registered for the deal
     
  4. TCM2007

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    The latest ones don't come with Component, are you thinking of that?
     
  5. pauljs

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    New Sky +HD EPG is apparently Imminent, so maybe sometime this year!

    http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitaltv/a145703/new-sky-hd-software-imminent.html

    I find the comment about their current "world Class EPG" totally laughable :eek:
     
  6. Wilf

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    Sorry, you're right TCM, must have cross read a thread.....its the component video support being dropped
     
  7. DeadKenny

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    and, "what we've got now is really going to blow the audience away.":D

    Though sadly it is probably true as the audience is oblivious to the likes of TiVo which came almost a decade earlier :(

    If it's just an interface revamp and no new features (like proper Wishlist style recording at least), then I can't see how that's a blow away improvement. Unless they're referring to the amazing ability to see the picture and the guide at the same time! Woohoo :D
     
  8. pauljs

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    I lost interest at the mention of Series Links, still can't record every series. I guess their biggest problem with a whole new EPG is making it compatible with what they have now.

    Going back to the "world Class" bit, there is a better PVR EPG on every Windows Vista PC
     
  9. DanielB

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    Would it be possible to have the TiVo work out the suggestions, and then use something like the pace link to tell the SKY+HD box to record? Will the TiVo get the HD EPG, and can a TiVo be used to control the record on another device?
     
  10. 6022tivo

    6022tivo A Happy Member

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    I have also put in the order.
    I am wasting my HD tv on poor quality pictures..
    Suprised at the moans of the cost for the subs, you do have to remember that TiVo's EPG is £10 a month also, and Sky's EPG is free.
     
  11. Pete77

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    But I have a Lifetime Sub on my Tivo so the ongoing monthly cost is nil.

    Are you saying you are only going to pay the £10 per month Sky+ fee then and only record BBC HD and C4 HD? Any other option on Sky HD comes to a lot more than £10 per month.

    Also you are signing up to use a known buggy and unreliable product that regularly wipes out your recordings.

    Of course halving the price of a Sky HD box is an obvious classic move by Uncle Rupey to try to kill off BBC/ITV Freesat
     
  12. mikerr

    mikerr TiVoCentral.co.uk

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    Yes, that's been done
    hack for skyHD recording
     
  13. 6022tivo

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    I will be paying for the sports and the HD pack, they currently have applied a 12 month free line rental and 12 month anytime phone deal, so the saving of £180 is paying for the next 12 months, this with the saving of free broadband and the fact that I own the HD box at the end of it, makes it a no brainer.

    ITV HD will have no option but to come on board with the sky option soon. Freesat only has 1 part time HD channel BBC HD, the ITV HD is occasionally available with the RED button.

    Also you can cut all ties with Sky at the end and you own the equipment at the outset.

    If you are not aware, some (Not sure which ones if not all) of the SKY+ box can have a firmware hack to activate the SKY+ recording without subscription, I would think the SkyHD are the same, or will be soon, so in my opinion it is a good deal.
    With SKY winning 5 out of 6 of the premiership football rights, I am looking forward to HD footy in the coming years.
     
  14. Pete77

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    If you could keep recording with a Sky HD box without any sub on the free channels then I would get one as I do watch the Sky sub channels occasionally for the Dakar Rally and sometimes Le Mans (if not going along in person to the latter). It is the fact that you cannot record as a non subscriber that puts me off doing so.

    Whilst you say that a Sky HD box can be made to record without a sub that is still clearly a violation of Sky's terms and conditions.

    My preferred option would be a Windows MCE system for which there if an official CAM for watching Sky but unfortunately for the time being Sky refuses to play ball unless Ofcom forces them to do so.:eek::mad::thumbsdown:
     
  15. DanielB

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    But with a lifetime sub, you can factor this cost into the cost of buying the unit and hence ignore it from that point forth.
     
  16. 6022tivo

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    I suppose you could argue selling the lifetime sub tivo (Over £100) and putting that towards the cost of the subscription for the year.
     
  17. TCM2007

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    Either having HD is worth it to you or it isn't. Everyone will have a different set of channels they watch, a different value attached to picture quality, a different TV, and different personal financial circumstances, so there's little point in arguing about it.

    If I could physically get it, I'd have it in a flash as I have a big TV and I love the quality. Pete, who hasn't even sprung for a wide-screen conventional TV yet, will clearly have a different opinion. We're both right!
     
  18. Pete77

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    For once TCM I find I am fully in agreement with you.

    I therefore assume that you either eagerly await the arrival of the three new Freeview HD channels in due course and/or any decision by the BBC, ITV, C4 etc to make available true HD versions of their broadcasts for download.

    Meanwhile I assume you can spend the money you would have spent on a Sky sub on purchasing a steady stream of films on Blu Ray disks. Not of course that this will help you at all with watching live Rugby in HD though.:(

    Being realistic I will be 46 in a few days time so no doubt the hardening of my Corneas means I am already getting past the age where I am likely to derive the maximum benefits of HD viewing. Also even if that is not the case I still think it would be a short term great excitement and then hardly be noticed at all after a while. Whereas use of Tivo has been a permanent revolution that has changed my viewing habits forever.

    By the way how did you come to buy a house that would not give you Sky HD reception? Can I infer from this that it is your other half who is allowed the final say over such matters in your life?;):p
     
  19. TCM2007

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    The sacrifices we make for the children's education Pete!

    In practice once Freeview HD comes out, it will only be live sport which is an issue. For films there's Blu-ray and for TV series there are, er, other methods. I use said other methods to download UK stuff too - eg Time Team, Survivors.

    I can get live sport via broadband, which is naff pic quality, but better than nothing. Most weekends I actually go to the games anyway.
     
  20. Pete77

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    But for how much longer? Have you not yet received one of those solicitors letters asking for a suitable payment for the royalty value of all the stuff you have illegally downloaded and then passed on to others via P2P (i.e. uploaded in their terms, which is regarded as being more serious than illegal download copyright violations).

    So in the longer run I think your only hope is the arrival of faster wired and wireless connections that may allow you to watch Sky HD stuff legally again. When is your local exchange scheduled to be upgraded to BT's 21st Century Network and how much faster will it make your broadband connection?

    As to the education of the children it sounds like you are reliant on moving in to the catchment area of one of the best state schools (possibly Grammar?) rather than splashing out on private school fees then?
     

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