Version 20.2 Future Changes

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by compnurd, Jan 7, 2012.

  1. Jan 7, 2012 #1 of 124

    compnurd Well-Known Member

    Oct 6, 2011


    Since we know someone is listening to us now :)

    I would like to see in the new guide, if it could show an HD icon to let you know the show is in HD.

    Otherwise i am very happy with everything else so far. Last couple of months have been some huge leaps i think for the premiere
  2. Jan 7, 2012 #2 of 124

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

    Apr 5, 2010
    I don't have the update yet, and don't use the HDUI.... but from the other threads, I will add:

    * Give the user the ability to turn off the discovery bar
    * Give the user the ability to turn off live TV in the guide
    * Take the seconds display off the clock (since it is not really needed, and distracting to some)

    I assume you don't want ALL types of suggestions for changes. If so, my list would easily fill two or more pages. I will assume you mean changes that relate to the things introduced in ver 20.
  3. Jan 7, 2012 #3 of 124

    sbiller Active Member

    May 10, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    Here are the items that were speculated about and not included in the update.

    1. Finish all HD screens (sbiller, smbaker, DrewG5, innocentfreak)
    2. HD Netflix User Experience (Ux) with queue management, subtitles, surround sound, 1080p, see what's HD
    3. HD Amazon Instant Ux with Prime Streaming Support
    4. HD YouTube Ux, 720p and 1080p, improved management of user ID
    5. Multiple User Profile Support for My Shows, Season Passes, Suggestions, etc.
    6. Twitter integration
    7. Facebook integration
    8. Android 2nd Screen App for larger tablets
    9. Vudu Support
    10. HDUI Parental Controls
    11. Screen Saver for paused recordings
    12. Longer/Selectable Live TV Buffer
    13. Improved Conflict Management (conflicts show in ToDo List with ability to change priority for one showing)
    14. Auto Padding when Tuner Available (time selectable)
    15. Overlapping padding when Tuner does not change channels
    16. Cooperative Scheduling between 2 Premieres
    17. Get Glue Social Integration
    18. HME App store leveraging remote servers, not local PCs
    19. Chumby Apps
    20. TiVo Suggestions Grouping to improve management of TiVo suggestions
    21. User defined folders for My Shows
    22. Streaming network test that tests the local network to determine streaming support levels
  4. Jan 7, 2012 #4 of 124

    tomm1079 Member

    May 10, 2005
    I personally just want to see these things:
    -Cooperative Scheduling between multiple Premieres - Put all season passes on one box and it schedules it on the box that has a free tuner always leaving a tuner available to watch live TV on the other boxes (if possible). Hell even allow you to put what Tivo you would like to record to and it always records their if possible..else somewhere else
    -Once streaming is enabled a single My Shows list that we can turn on/off

    Basically turn tivo into a whole home dvr solution
  5. Jan 7, 2012 #5 of 124

    JosephB Member

    Nov 19, 2010
    Atlanta, GA


    I think the Preview is the solution they're moving towards here. Coop scheduling and a unified NPL seems like it'd be a very significant engineering task
  6. Jan 7, 2012 #6 of 124

    JosephB Member

    Nov 19, 2010
    Atlanta, GA
    I'd like to see some additional video sources, primarily ESPN3, EPIX, and HBO GO. But, if AppleTV and Roku have it, they should put it on their wish list (ranking by popularity of course, Roku has a ton of junk on it)
  7. Jan 7, 2012 #7 of 124

    sbiller Active Member

    May 10, 2002
    Tampa, FL
    Agree completely. I don't expect coop scheduling or unified NPL any time in the future. They are moving towards the one-box whole-home DVR with multiple extenders.

    This is what they view as the sweet spot for the retail and cable operator market. I tend to agree with them.
  8. Jan 7, 2012 #8 of 124

    rainwater Active Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    - The discovery bar isn't going away. It is here to stay unless the redesign the entire UI which isn't happening on the S4 platform.
    - Live tv has always been visible with the guide. I don't see what the point of removing it would be.
  9. Jan 7, 2012 #9 of 124

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

    Aug 25, 2001
    Which is also why I never use the guide and it is worthless to me. If you are watching live TV and hit Guide, fine keep the spoiler window running what I am watching. If I am watching a recording and hit the Guide, fine keep the spoiler window showing what I am watching. If I am in the menus though and I have the spoiler window turned off, don't display anything or display a discovery box showing popular shows on now. Otherwise to possibly avoid spoiling a current recording I have to pick a show from My Shows just to watch so I can use the guide.

    While we are at it with the guide, I would say give us more options. Bring back filters. Add the option to add indicators, filter, or colorcode shows that won't record due to conflict if no other airing will record, shows which you have a season pass for, shows which are on the suggestion list, shows in HD, etc.

    I must say I prefer the old Discovery Bar so again I would love to see the option added to select which version you prefer. At the very least I would love to be able to disable the labels. The new TiVo screens are very dull since the pictures are nowhere near as bright and colorful with the labels now. Also with the new Discovery Bar you can no longer rate the items. You have to actually select the show and even then when it is on the Discovery Bar it doesn't show whether it has a thumbs up or not.
  10. Jan 7, 2012 #10 of 124

    SafariKC Weeeeeeeeeeee

    Mar 6, 2000
    Stow, MA, USA
    How often is something "spoiler" showing in the live tv preview window for you? I don't watch a lot of live tv - But I have noticed if there is something spoilery showing I can hit pause on the remote at at least stop it.

    That being said - I do find it a little odd that it doesn't support the same preference setting not to show the window (I have the window off by default myself on TiVo central). Perhaps there is a master plan to change the preview window in general that caused the disconnect between the two screens? Or it's to stop the case of interrupting your watching something to see what's next to watch live. Tricky user story to solve for I assume.
  11. Jan 7, 2012 #11 of 124

    TerpBE Go Terps!

    Jan 23, 2003
    Philly 'burbs
    A couple of things from my wish list:

    * Prevent the video window from jumping around (upper corner to full screen then back to upper corner) when performing actions on listings in the guide (record/explore/etc.).

    * If FF/Rewinding when you hit guide, continue doing that; don't automatically start playing at the point you hit the button.

    * Shift the guide "channel" column a little to the left, so that there's enough room for a full 2.5 hours of guide data. Currently it seems like there's an unnecessary amount of space on the left side.

    * Bring back filtering in the guide.
  12. Jan 7, 2012 #12 of 124

    LoneWolf15 Jedi Pirate Ninja

    Mar 20, 2010
    The Mitten...
    I haven't seen enough yet to comment except for one thing.

    Get broader compatibility for the Android app. My Motorola Droid Bionic is one of the front-line phones, and the app doesn't even list in the Android Market for me --unless I manually enter the URL and find out my phone isn't compatible with it.

    That also makes me wonder what owners of other flagship phones (e.g., HTC Rezound, Samsung Galaxy SII/Galaxy Nexus, Moto Droid RAZR) are experiencing.
  13. Jan 7, 2012 #13 of 124

    todd_j_derr Member

    Jun 6, 2000
    The android app shows in the market and works on my Galaxy Nexus as well as my OG Droid that I'm now using as a remote... I wonder why it doesn't work on the Bionic - it might be worth opening a case with Tivo.
  14. Jan 7, 2012 #14 of 124

    DeWitt Member

    Jun 30, 2004
    Great idea on the OG... was wondering what to do with it after I upgraded to the Nexus.
  15. Jan 8, 2012 #15 of 124

    DCleary New Member

    Dec 20, 2008

    I am particularly interested in NHL GameCenter Live and the NFL's app (only on the PS3 for now).
  16. Jan 8, 2012 #16 of 124

    zowwie85 New Member

    Jul 24, 2010
    Phoenix, AZ
    You can easily sideload the app on any android device... there's a thread in this forum with a link to the actual .apk file. Load that thread from whatever device, download the apk from the thread and install it. I have it working on a Motorola Xoom tablet. :)
  17. Jan 8, 2012 #17 of 124

    partswiz New Member

    Feb 4, 2004
    Columbus, Ohio
    I put the app on my android evo and it works great!
  18. Jan 8, 2012 #18 of 124

    b_scott TiVo Fan

    Nov 27, 2006
    chicago, il
    You do know you can turn the live window off in the menu, right? It's in settings
  19. Jan 8, 2012 #19 of 124

    JosephB Member

    Nov 19, 2010
    Atlanta, GA
    Here's another change I'd like to see:

    When a tuning adapter is connected, don't seize the whole system until I acknowledge. If there is a power outage and my TiVo and TA reboots or if there's a problem and the TA itself reboots, recordings are lost and nothing happens until you acknowledge the screen.

    Remember that I've connected a TA in the past and if I have, ignore the prompts.
  20. Jan 8, 2012 #20 of 124

    Tivogre Well-Known Member

    Jul 12, 2002
    Springfield, VA
    Could we see "Sort by original air date" option in program lists?

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