Version 11.0b bug list

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  1. Feb 25, 2009 #21 of 148
    theLuggage

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    Last night I got the 11b update.

    I generally turn off my router when I'm not home (trying to be green and all that) therefore I have to force a connection on the TiVo nearly every day. I just forced a connection and noticed that I've got another Pending Restart message. I haven't restarted yet. Anyone else get this?
     
  2. Feb 25, 2009 #22 of 148
    mae

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    :mad:Mine did the same thing tonight (post update) for the first time I can remember!
     
  3. Feb 25, 2009 #23 of 148
    jrm01

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    I have had 11.0b for almost three weeks now on both my S3 and THD. I've been in and out of Sys Info dozens of times with no problems.
     
  4. Feb 25, 2009 #24 of 148
    sinanju

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    Same here
     
  5. Feb 26, 2009 #25 of 148
    Roderigo

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    Four things come to mind:
    1) While it's all the same base level hardware/software, there are multitudes of different configurations: antenna lineups, cable lineups, cablecards (so, really different hardware), cablecard firmware versions, 3rd party hard drives on hacked units, etc.

    2) In addition to the configurations, there are also different usage patterns: number of season passes, number of wishlists, usage of varying "network" features, combinations of usage of the features.

    3) Maybe tivo found the problem during their QE or field testing, and decided for whatever reason to release the software anyways: they don't think it will have a significant impact, or not significant enough impact for the risk of taking a fix late in the release, maybe they can't easily reproduce the problem in a lab environment, etc.

    4) Some of the failures aren't directly related to the SW upgrade but are precipitated by them. Maybe the reboot caused the issue to come to light; maybe there was some weird interaction with the tivo service unrelated to the upgrade; Maybe the alternate HD partition went bad, and was just noticed when the upgrade is installed; etc.

    Because of 1&2, it's inevitable that there's something that slips through the cracks, no matter how diligent tivo's qe and field trials program is.
     
  6. Feb 26, 2009 #26 of 148
    dig_duggler

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    Fits my scenario. I've seen this alot and am using clear QAM (no cc).
     
  7. Feb 26, 2009 #27 of 148
    Revolutionary

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    So this explains why my Tivo unexpectedly stopped responding to remote commands and then restarted itself -- at 8:45pm? Great timing... I may not have any season passes at that time, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to watch anything!
     
  8. Feb 26, 2009 #28 of 148
    richsadams

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    That would not be normal. When a service update/upgrade is distributed TiVo waits until 2 a.m. local time to install it and then automatically reboots. If you experienced a spontaneous reboot any other time it was most likely caused by something else. Are you on v11.0b now?

    If the update has been downloaded "Pending restart" is listed in the “Last Status” line on the Phone & Network Screen and on the System Information screen. If you can't wait for the update to be installed you can reboot it (unplug it and plug it back in) and it will update immediately.

    I've had two unexplained spontaneous reboots in the past couple of weeks (prior to v11.0b). Both occurred when my wife and then I (two different occasions) attempted to start a manual recording of a show already in progress. No idea why and I tried replicating it after v11.0b was installed and it works fine now. Maybe it was a "bug" that was fixed with the latest update?
     
  9. Feb 26, 2009 #29 of 148
    ThAbtO

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    Last night I had another update to v11.0b not v11.0b.E and after a weird startup with a pink almost there screen alternating with snow, 1 of my digital channel which had missing data finally got their data.
     
  10. Feb 26, 2009 #30 of 148
    richsadams

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    I had the weird pink "Almost there" screen on our S3 for a few moments as well (but no snow)! (v11.0b, never had v11.0b.E) Thought it was just my setup, an HDMI thing or whatever. Hmmm. :confused:
     
  11. Feb 26, 2009 #31 of 148
    MichaelK

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    i belive pink tints and snow are indicative of bad hdmi/dvi syncing- reboot flips resolutions arounds at various points so it's not crazy to see that every now and again with particular tv's.

    now if you are using component thats a totally different issue....
     
  12. Feb 26, 2009 #32 of 148
    morac

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    While 11.0b was installing I switched to a different input on my TV. When I switched back the "Installing update" screen was all purple. Everything installed fine, but apparently the HDMI doesn't sync very well during the installation process.
     
  13. Feb 26, 2009 #33 of 148
    rainwater

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    This has always been the case with any Series3 when I use HDMI. I think it is just a hdmi issue but its hardly worth worrying about I guess.
     
  14. Feb 26, 2009 #34 of 148
    MichaelK

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    yep- switching inputs or resolutions forces a resync and it fixes it.

    But i think it's TV dependant- or more exactly a slight incompatibility between the tivo and certain tv's.

    I had a circa 2004 panasonic that did it fairly regularly. Have a circa 2006 sharp and a brand new Samsung (replaced the panny) and neither of the newer 2 does it ever.
     
  15. Feb 26, 2009 #35 of 148
    steve614

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    Yesterday, I had "pending restart" in my phone and network screen and for some reason (no recordings at the time), the Tivo didn't reboot at 2 am.
    So I restarted this morning and 11.0b.E was installed.
    Now because of this thread, I just checked my P & N screen, and again, I had pending restart.
    Am now rebooting, we'll see what happens.

    Edit: I now have v11.0b.
     
  16. Feb 26, 2009 #36 of 148
    Ames

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    Woke up this morning and found the Tivo had hung. I cycled power and it said it was installing the updates. I went to work and when I came home I found it had crashed again. I cycled power and it appears ok now...
     
  17. Feb 26, 2009 #37 of 148
    richsadams

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    Regarding the last two posts, my understanding is that (like with most software downloads) there is a checksum validation that is performed to determine if all of the correct data was downloaded. If there was packet loss, data corruption, etc. the server will continue to try until the data is successfully downloaded and installed. Sounds like that's what might have happened?
     
  18. Feb 26, 2009 #38 of 148
    HerronScott

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    I had a similar experience with both of my Series 3's. I noticed a Pending Restart last night so I rebooted after which they were both upgraded to 11.0b.E. I then forced a connect after which both had another Pending Restart. After restarting, they were both upgraded to 11.0b without the E.

    I thought it was interesting that there was no update announcement after either update.

    Scott
     
  19. Feb 26, 2009 #39 of 148
    richsadams

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    Two reasons I can think of. The file is very small, took < 10 minutes to install. Looks like a patch/bug fix and so far I haven't seen or read about any new features. If any announcements are to be made, they generally only make them after the final version (w/o the alpha suffix, i.e. v11.0b) is installed. This doesn't look like a seasonal upgrade...no new features, nothing to brag about so I'd guess it's supposed to be transparent. Your average Joe doesn't get too excited about these sorts of things...just us, um, enthusiasts. ;)
     
  20. Feb 26, 2009 #40 of 148
    ThAbtO

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    I think mine took 6 min to startup.
     

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