Veronica Mars 5/10 "Leave it to Beaver" *Spoilers*

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  1. cmontyburns

    cmontyburns Excellent.

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    Wallace would be arguably the most appropriate, as he is the person she has leaned on the most (of the likely candidates) this season, and probably the person she would want to unburden herself to most of all. That said, I agree that it is unlikely to be him. Realistically, it would be unlikely to be Logan either, as his father was just arrested for murder and Logan is a juvenile. It's not like the cops wouldn't be making every effort to find him. And Veronica's been too up-and-down in her emotions about him to realistically feel anything so quickly, I wouldn't think. Unless all she felt is the need to apologize for suspecting him. Same goes for Duncan. Weevil? Can't get there. So, overall, I conclude that there is nobody at the door, and Veronica has gone insane. Next season takes place in an asylum.
     
  2. bbstarky

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    Lol monty.

    That was a FANTASTIC episode. I am so glad I chose to watch this show, and I followed it for 3 months before it aired. This show was well-written, has humour, action, and then the touchy "chick-flick" moments. I loved this show, and I can't wait for next season.

    I think it was either Wallace or Duncan at the door. Wallace because he's been her friend throughout all the ordeals, or Duncan so that they can start over. :)
     
  3. lonwolf615

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    You know,a good way to start the 2nd season would be with Veronica in a coma,with Keith trying to discover who came to the door that fateful night...assuming that doesn't happen I'm going to go out on a limb and say the deputy,whats his name?There clearly was an attraction there on both sides but Veronica was too involved with the murder and the other stuff going on in her life to really connect.With that resolved I would think she would be looking for a fresh start and to get on with her life...After all that has happened I can't really see her wanting to see either Duncan or Logan,at least right away..okay,maybe Duncan
     
  4. cheesesteak

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    I doubt if the writers even know who really was at the door.

    So what did the episode title "Leave It To Beaver" mean?
     
  5. WinBear

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    Beaver was the nickname of the blond headed kid who came to her early in the episode about Logan's trip to Tijuana and the shotglass.
     
  6. Lurker1

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    What's the whole story with Veronica's mom? Why did she disappear and why did Keith keep it all secret from her and demand she not investigate it, and why was she being watched and why was it to protect Veronica and why was Veronica so clueless about everything?

    I could ask similar questions about the other characters and other motives and other plotlines also. This show is so rich in depth, it is hard for me to grasp it all stretched out over several months. Is there a comprehensive summary or explanation of the season written anywhere?
     
  7. markp99

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    Actually, Beaver was the smaller, dark haired kid (named Cassidy). He's the one who broke the "code of silence" to Veronica, telling her that Logan left TJ early on the day of Lilly's murder.

    The blond headed surfer dude was named "Dick".
     
  8. scottcohn

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    Did anyone else bring up or notice that there were 3 tapes that Lilly took from the Echolls house and that Veronica found in the vent. I believe that Veronica and Duncan watched 2 of them, the first being Lilly on the day that she died (in the Pep Squad outfit) and the second one was of Lilly and Aaron getting it on. What was on that 3rd tape? And how did Lilly know which tapes to take, besides the one in the recorder when she was in the room? Did Aaron label them? Anyone else have any thoughts or theories?
     
  9. WinBear

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    I knew he said his name wasn't really Beaver when he came to Veronica, but I was having some odd sound issues and I honestly heard him say his name was "Cassie" and he said it twice. I just couldn't wrap my mind around his real name being Cassie, so thanks for explaining that better. It makes much more sense for him to be named Cassidy.
     
  10. wouldworker

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    It wasn't just you. It did sound like he was saying "Cassie", but Veronica clearly said "Cassidy".
     
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    The third one was the missing 18 minutes from the Nixon tapes.

    Lilly grabbed whatever tapes were handy. Veronica and Duncan watched only two tapes because the second told Veronica everything she needed to know. There was no need to watch the third one.
     
  12. markp99

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    It seemed to me that Lilly just grabbed ALL the tapes as she hurried away. I'll bet there's just more to incriminate Aaron, and maybe Logan??
     
  13. MikeCC

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    So let me get this straight... They've got a Beaver and Dick on this show? :eek: Man, I've just got to start watchin' the re-runs. :D
     
  14. markp99

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    From 2nd to last episode, DIck (surfer dude) is lamenting Beaver's success with the chicks at the party: Beaver's gettin' al the lovin'; Dick's flapping out in the breeze." :D
     
  15. Rob Helmerichs

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    I don't think it could be Logan at the door. Even someone who can be as self-absorbed as Veronica often is isn't going to think that after the events of the past few days, everything between them would be all hunky-dory. And her reaction to whoever it was was worry-free.

    To a much lesser extent, the same would apply to Duncan. I think Wallace is the most likely suspect--and since Veronica called Wallace's mom to have her go sit with Keith, he knows it's all over and that she's probably a but freaked out...
     
  16. cmontyburns

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    These are good questions. Add to them: what was up with the photos of Veronica with gunsights trained on her? Plot holes or did I miss something?

    I believe the original explanation for her disappearance was that she was humiliated by the fall from grace her family took when Keith wrongly tabbed Jake Kane for the murder. As she is clearly a weak individual, this is a reasonable explanation, although it doesn't explain why she was being watched (for example, Veronica seeing Clarence in the bar where she found her mom). I was trying to relate this to the notion that Jake might have been Veronica's father, and since he believed that Duncan killed Lilly, he resorted to scaring Mrs. Mars away to make sure the paternity issue didn't somehow come out and cause the new authorities to come sniffing around his family all over again. But I really can't remember: do we know for sure that Jake and Veronica's mom had an affair, or was it only Keith and Mrs. Kane that suspected it, but with no hard proof (i.e. being caught literally in the act)?
     
  17. Rkkeller

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    I thought this was a great ending. Almost as good as Battlestar Galacticas was.

    Thumbs Up.


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  18. gerbil42

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    That's funny, in talking to a friend about it, I compared it to BSG's finale.

    I think I said, "it's not as "WTF just happened?!?", but just as satisfying."
     
  19. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    I thought the pen was a set up for this week's episode. It established that Lily's room was still mostly as she had left it, otherwise there would have been no point in Weevil going in to find the pen. Since they hadn't remodeled the room and turned it into a study or guest room, that increased the likelihood that anything Lily had stashed in her AC vents would still be there.

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  20. sfenton

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    Celeste Kane wanted Veronica's mother gone. She believed that Veronica was her husband's illegitimate child. Mrs. Kane had security guy from Kane Industries take the photos and then used them to force Veronica's mother to leave town.
     

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