Veronica Mars 1/25/2006 "Donut Run"

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  1. Jan 25, 2006 #1 of 119
    WinBear

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    Wow, what an elaborate episode!

    I'm glad to see the PCH/09'er B-story moving along.

    How do you think this will impact Veronica's future?

    Oh, and for this to have been a Duncan episode, there wasn't enough of him to see more of the character than we've seen before.
     
  2. Jan 25, 2006 #2 of 119
    Graymalkin

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    Um, who was the blonde riding with Donut at the end?
     
  3. Jan 25, 2006 #3 of 119
    WinBear

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    It was obviously someone Vinnie knew, unless Veronica has been secretly keeping track of other blondes with similar hairstyles for just such an occasion.
     
  4. Jan 25, 2006 #4 of 119
    Sinuralan

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    Those writers are too cute. Sticking the LOST numbers in there. Very nice.

    One thing I like about Veronica Mars is you do actually get a story, some sort of resolution at the end of each episode. Yeah, the plot/mystery keeps building, which is great an essential, but they don't feel the need to leave you hanging from a cliff each week. That's good.

    I'm guessing the blondie was just the girlfriend.
     
  5. Jan 25, 2006 #5 of 119
    dswallow

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    4 8 15 16 23 42 -- too funny.
     
  6. Jan 25, 2006 #6 of 119
    LoadStar

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    One thing that continues to bother me... the bus crash. Haven't heard anything about that in a good long while. They've switched to focusing on the dual plot lines of the 09er that was killed on the bridge, and Duncan's kid and the Mannings. It'll be interesting to see how they end up tying all three of these plotlines together.

    I sort of lost track of who exactly was all in on this... did I get this straight that everyone, except Sheriff Lamb, was in on it? Impressive.

    I've got to go back and watch that again... there were layers upon layers, some of which I completely missed.
     
  7. Jan 25, 2006 #7 of 119
    Sinuralan

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    Well, the FBI wasn't in on it. Nor Wallace, or Veronica's dad. But yeah, pretty much everyone else. :)
     
  8. Jan 25, 2006 #8 of 119
    dswallow

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    No, he was set up to go hunting for Veronica in Mexico based on the ATM transaction; Duncan hid in the trunk. The baby went with the girl and guy in the truck who picked up Duncan at the restaurant in Mexico.

    When Lambs trunk popped open, he saw the water boodles and snack wrappers in the trunk and realized he got used.
     
  9. Jan 25, 2006 #9 of 119
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    Right, I got that. That's why I said everyone EXCEPT Lamb.
     
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    You sure? With the way that Keith responded to the FBI agent at the end, it seemed like they were in on it too.
     
  11. Jan 25, 2006 #11 of 119
    WinBear

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    They had to get the FBI away so they could send Lamb to Mexico where he'd get waved through the checkpoint.
     
  12. Jan 25, 2006 #12 of 119
    dswallow

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    Duh. :) Sowwy.
     
  13. Jan 25, 2006 #13 of 119
    Sinuralan

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    To me it seemed like the FBI knew that Veronica was involved (how else would she hold a conversation with a tape), but that that wouldn't be enough to convict her of anything and both Keith and the FBI agents knew that. Hence their statement that kidnapping cases don't just go away... they might not have enough on her yet, but just because she walks away today doesn't mean she's in the clear.

    That was my interpretation of what happened. Keith did appear to clean up some of the evidence that Veronica had left behind (the diapers etc.)
     
  14. Jan 25, 2006 #14 of 119
    LoadStar

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    Yeah, I guess I can sort of see this too. Hrm.

    I really have the same problem with this episode that the people over on TWoP have... I really disliked the blatant attempts at VIEWER manipulation. I get the whole trying to convince the other characters, but there were scenes with Veronica by herself... the scene with Veronica on the phone, and the scenes with her moping in her bedroom by herself. What possible point could those have had except to deliberately attempt to mislead the viewer?

    That aside, I guess the best part of this episode is that they sent Teddy Dunn packing. I never believed ANY of his scenes this season with Veronica, including the ones in this episode. He's just a lousy actor.
     
  15. Jan 25, 2006 #15 of 119
    Azlen

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    Speaking of TWOP, did anyone else here notice the shoutout?
    When Veronica was talking to Duncan's recording on the cell phone there was a flyer with TWOP in big letters tacked up on the bulletin board behind Veronica.
     
  16. Jan 26, 2006 #16 of 119
    mwhip

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    The girl that was in the truck that helped them was Duncan's mom's assistant? Can't really remember her role in all of it. Will need to go back and watch.
     
  17. Jan 26, 2006 #17 of 119
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    Presumably Veronica (and Duncan?) came up with this entire plot between last episode and this one. Nice continuity that they emptied the next door apartment awhile back. The moping was to (a) convince Keith, and (b) loud music hid any incidental noise (crying? excavation between the apartments?) while the baby was in the next apartment.
     
  18. Jan 26, 2006 #18 of 119
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    I got the loud music... but the door was closed. There wasn't any need for her to ACTUALLY be moping in her room, as she was shown doing... She could've grabbed a good book and sat back for a while with the CD player spinning "Now That's What I Call Breakup Music Volume 15."
     
  19. Jan 26, 2006 #19 of 119
    edc

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    50/50. Privacy is nonexistent in the apartment, and Wallace always pops in (as he did). She needed to play the part.

    If you really want an in-story explanation, perhaps the "moping" was wrestling with the moral ambiguity of the situation. :)
     
  20. Jan 26, 2006 #20 of 119
    cmontyburns

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    Yes, she was -- and, you may recall, she is Celeste's illegitimate daughter from years ago, making her the baby's aunt.

    I really liked this episode. At first, I was prepared not to, because when Lamb arrived to arrest Veronica at the beginning I thought, "How many times can they recycle the plot where Veronica is arrested/searched/accused of something she obviously didn't do?" And yet the plot circled back on itself numerous times, with Lamb actually being smarter than we think, but also being used in a way we don't expect, such that he is both right and wrong simultaneously.

    I do agree somewhat with the complaints about viewer misdirection. Much of it was warranted and defensible, but it probably did go a bit far. Also, it's becoming a bit awkward with the way the part-time characters like Wallace and Weevil are shuttled into and out of the story, and mysteries and drama around them come and go with their presence or absence. But those are minor quibbles. I love the way Thomas & Co. continue to explore Veronica's moral ambiguities, and how -- finally -- they blew up in her face with Keith. That was an exceptionally well-played sequence, and Veronica richly deserves whatever fallout comes from it.
     

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