Using nudity to help establish a series

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You read my mind!

 

I think in the day, it was titillating to perhaps see this or that actor (female or male...since I'm not allowed to say actress anymore!) nude and that would draw in viewers. With so much nudity on TV now, does anyone even care anymore? I can't remember the last show I watched because of nudity (not saying that having it isn't a bonus, depending on who's nude). To me, they've marginalized nudity, violence, blood and gore, and foul language. It just not a big deal anymore. In fact, sometimes watching OTA TV, I notice that it's NOT there. And frankly, it's refreshing, and often much better written to imply things like that without actually seeing/saying it.

 

It's still this or that actor vs an extra they don't know, so yeah there's still an appeal to it. This is why early nude scenes by ones who suddenly become really famous for some reason will always pop up: nobody cared as much until they knew who they were.

 

Pretty sure that's Hill Street Blues.

 

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On the foul language thing...Do people really converse using 7 f'words in the same sentence? Maybe, but I've never been around anyone who does.

 

I agree, and in fact, most families I've been with, including mine, the idea of using curse words for just the sake of saying them (for example instead of saying "You've got to be kidding me!" you would say "You've got to be F****** kidding me." Is not something encouraged. But some shows just overuse language, because they can. It's like someone untied their hands and now they have to make up for lost time. For some shows, sure, it's more realistic, but for many, it's just there because it can be.

 

Well the wife can get into a mood and the potty mouth will flow. When I am in the car the potty mouth flows. So yea it does happen.

 

I don't, but I know people who do. It drives me absolutely up the wall, and now my 18yo has become one of those people. We don't speak like this! But apparently he and his friends do.

I used to hang out with a group of guys, and one of them cursed so much that if he were to stop cussing, the efficiency of his speech would go up ten-fold. There would only be one or two words of substance per sentence, and somehow he had replaced "um" with "effin". So he would be talking and pause and say, "effin..."

There are TV shows as a result I just don't like, or have a hard time watching, like The Leftovers. Nobody speaks like the main character of that show, but the story was so good I kept watching. It made it difficult to say the least.

 

I do when I’m at home. I catch myself and refrain at work or with strangers. Weirdly, my sisters will not even say any curse words (even very mild ones), but I don’t know where they picked that up. It certainly wasn’t from our parents. TV must be a bad influence.

 

In the beforetimes when I worked in an office with other people, i definitely heard cursing every day, and this is a white collar office job.

Now that I work at home alone in my office I still hear cursing every day

Maybe there is a common denominator

Swearing makes you 'happier, healthier, more intelligent and honest'

 

‘Way back when we had Damnit Jim.

 

Well, I'm as ******* happy, healthy, and intelligent and honest as they come! And if you don't like it, you can just eat ****.

 

If it matters, I do work in a building full of Software Engineers for additional context

 

I find cursing highly unprofessional. Does it happen? Sure, and in my office as well. We al through the SH** curse around on occasion. Rarely the F curse. And NEVER speaking with clients. I know my grammar and spelling is bad, but to me, if you constantly use bad language, it makes you seem crude and uneducated. There, I said it, call me old fashioned. I think we've devolved quite a bit and have taken whatever is shocking and special away from cursing, nudity, and blood and gore. I get reality and all that, but sometimes it's used for shock value, and when EVERYONE tries to use it for shock value, it loses that value. Then it's just crude. I would not begrudge anyone from watching it if that's what you enjoy, nor should it ever be censored, but I've learned to appreciate those writers who can have the same effect without using it. I think it takes MUCH more talent to do that.

 

Exactly -- too much use loses the value. In the office, I heard it very rarely, where the emphasis was generally warranted and had that effect.

If you use your strongest language for everyday stuff, what do you use in situations that need something stronger than usual?

 

That's a major difference between our workplaces - clients. My building just has ~800 IT professionals in it that are all internal employees.

 

One thing I noticed, at least in my office...when I started working for this company (I've been there 6 years), I was in a group where the average age of my team was under 30. There was a lot more cursing. In my current group where we are a mix of older and younger folks, there's hardly any. I think when you are younger, cursing is a "cool" thing to do. Once you get older, it's more for effect than for just general speech. I probably cursed a lot more with my friends and classmates when I was in HS and college. But as I "grew up", I curse much less. But I also think perhaps having kids around in your house makes you less likely to curse (and now that my kids are all adults, we curse more, but not all the time).

 

You mean ARE bad, don't you?

 

I was at a small tech company for a few months and it was pretty high energy (great people) but my direct boss and everyone around me swore a LOT. I generally don't swear much when in public/office. But I ramped up my swearing to fit in more Was kinda fun