Using nudity to help establish a series

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    DouglasPHill

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    In season one of Yellowstone there were a few scenes of nudity. I do not remember any from Season 2 nor current Season 3. So that begets the question "Was the season 1 nudity used simply to generate interest?"

    What other shows have done the same? I'm thinking Westworld cut back on nudity in later seasons.
     
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    zalusky

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    Shameless has virtually stopped their nudity.
     
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    These days, more often than not, if nudity is indicated for a show it means you’ll get to see some guy’s bare butt with nary a bare boob in sight!! :(
     
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    tivotvaddict

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    Definitely Westworld. Game of Thrones to a certain extent, though it did continue it was to a lesser degree.

    The Alienist isn't showing direct nudity per se, but the storyline this 2nd season is far more sexually charged than the first season.
     
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    doom1701

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    Altered Carbon. It may have been more the shift in tone for season 2, and that nudity didn't fit the "action movie/political intrigue" storyline of the season like it did the noir/gumshoe storyline of season 1. But it felt like you couldn't get through 20 minutes of season 1 without full frontal (male and female), and season 2 had almost nothing.
     
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    Allanon

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    The first season of Homeland had nudity almost every episode. Season 2 had sex scenes without nudity then it pretty much stops for the rest of the series.
     
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    kdmorse

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    Stargate SG-1. Although they went back pretty fast to pretend that never happened when they ended up going more Sci-Fi channel, and less Showtime.

    Edit: Just looked it up. Showrunners never wanted nudity. Showtime demanded it to launch the series.
     
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    zalusky

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    I can't prove this (I have tried searching) but I have a strong feeling that around 2016 +/- that Hollywood made a conscious decision to cut back on nudity relative to earlier in the decade. I don't know if MeToo affected things but a lot of shows dropped it off fast.

    Shameless was my example where virtually the whole adult cast went butt naked so to speak. I remember as soon as soon as Cameron Monaghan turned 18 he had a back side scene. And of course Emmy did plenty. Then it seem to have just stopped and the younger cast who are now older than 18 haven't done anything.

    Similarly with other shows it has dropped off fast. I don't think it was establishing the show as the OP suggested but that we are in more conservative times what with Epstein, and Weinstein let alone subsequent accused actors like Hoffman, Kevin Spacey, ...
     
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    "Ballers" was that way, too.

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    They're just trying to titillate their audience. o_O
     
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    I'm not sure that was Season 1 so much as just the pilot..?
     
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    I wonder if it has to do with how established the actors become as the season moves along. Taking the GoT example, We saw Emilia Clarke nude quite a bit the first season, but later on, hardly nude at all. She became more well known and established and probably felt that the nudity wasn't going to help her career at that point.
     
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    I doubt she ever felt the nudity was going to help her career. She was just in a better position to say "No."
     
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    Maybe I worded it wrong, but yeah, that's what I meant. But, if you are an unknown actress, sometimes a way to get your name noticed is through nudity. But yes, a more established actress has more clout to say no.
     
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    I guess Brave New World never got the memo ... ;)
    I think you are spot on with this assessment. What we are seeing is a direct response to the Me Too movement. Studios and production companies are under scrutiny in a way that never existed before, and it's probably just easier to avoid gratuitous nudity and sex scenes. Even when they do have a sex scene, there are much stricter guidelines in place now ...

    There's A Whole New Set Of Guidelines For How Movies Go About Simulating Sex
     
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    This topic is specifically addressed in this article ...

    Why Altered Carbon Season 2 Has Way Less Nudity Than Season 1
     
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    I will say that there's much more male nudity than I can ever remember. Are they trying to even things up?
     
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    I would say also the nudity that Emilia in season 1 was important to the story and her characters evolution. Just like the walk of shame for Circe was an important moment to the story. The other whore house stuff not so much. But yea I suppose they could have done it PG.
     
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    I have no problem with nudity. However, there is just soooooo much wrong with this concept! Do young male actors (and that's what female actors are, actors) have nudity as a way to get their name noticed? No? Hmmm. Wonder why not.

    Westworld had quite a bit of nudity and treated it as part of an actual story line for both men and women. I don't necessarily think the best way to make things right is to have men go through the same issues women do, but if nudity is going to be used as part of the story, then yes, it there should be some balance there.
     
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