Use the eSATA port with an external drive (up to 8TB DVR Expander) - simple method!

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by barnabas1969, Sep 15, 2019.

  1. drnay

    drnay New Member

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    What is the SMALLEST drive I can set up as an internal for Bolt? I wonder if I could use MFSTOOLS to copy my single internal Bolt drive to a tiny 2.5" internal drive and a big external drive and really discourage Bolt from changing anything on the internal drive. Then I could just keep a backup for the internal drive for when it inevitably dies...
     
  2. snerd

    snerd Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, when you add an external drive on the eSATA port, both drives are used to store movies and you have no control over which recordings go to which drive. Also, if either drive dies, you lose everything.
     
  3. drnay

    drnay New Member

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    Yeah, but if I happen to have a recording that fills the internal drive (very small) completely and I never delete it?
    When I remove an external drive, I still keep the recordings that I had before I added the external drive, so there's some level of control.

    The point is, can we stop Bolt from using the internal drive? Put there a zero-size partition or something.
     
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  4. jmbach

    jmbach der Neuerer

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    True, if and only if that recording existed prior to adding the external drive.

    No reason to put a filler in the internal drive. If there is a recording split between the internal and external drive, it will be deleted when the external drive is removed. You will still have recordings that existed before adding the drive.
     
  5. drnay

    drnay New Member

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    The reason to have the filler in the internal drive is to make the internal drive easily replaceable WHILE keeping the external drive with all recordings.
     
  6. jmbach

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    If you replace the internal drive without either cloning it to another drive or use MFSTools to copy the drive to another drive, you will lose all recordings on both drives.

    So I am not following you.
     
  7. drnay

    drnay New Member

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    If the contents of the internal drive were not to change, because it's really small and filled up, then I could just restore it from backup.
     
  8. jmbach

    jmbach der Neuerer

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    I see what you are getting at. You could restore it from the back up, but you will still lose programs from the time the backup was made.
     
  9. drnay

    drnay New Member

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    Why? Bolt keeps the database on the internal flash, right? What do you expect to be changing on the internal drive after the backup? Like I said, the goal is to minimize the internal drive to the point when nothing is changing there.
     
  10. jmbach

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    The inodes are still on the hard drive.
     
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  11. V7Goose

    V7Goose OTA ONLY and Loving It!

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    It is NOT that hard to understand. The Bolt will format ANY NEW DRIVE that it sees. If the drive is not the same one that it saw the last time it was running, it will format the drive.

    That is why ONLY a clone of the drive that was last booted will work. If it is a CLONE of the last drive that was active, it cannot tell the difference, so it accepts it as the same drive. But a restore of a backup will NOT be the exact same image as the drive had when the bolt was last shut down, since the restore comes from some older point in time.

    I will summarize one more time in hopes that you will FINALLY accept what you have already been told many times:
    You can shut down a Bolt, clone the drive that was in there, and it will restart without loosing recordings. BUT ANY OTHER CHANGE TO THE DRIVE WILL LOOSE ALL RECORDINGS AND START WITH A FRESH FORMAT!
     
  12. drnay

    drnay New Member

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    You're still missing the point. The point was to keep the internal drive immutable, so a copy restored from the backup would be an exact "CLONE of the last drive that was active," so it couldn't tell the difference.
    But if it keeps the inode map for both int/ext drives on the internal drive, then we can't keep the internal drive unchanging, so that idea goes down in flames.
     
  13. My Cape is a Recliner

    My Cape is a Recliner New Member

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    I'm amazed at the thoughts on this board myself about how people are not willing to do this. As if people can tell what the back of the case looks like, and it somehow bothers them. Don't they know what a grommet is?
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    Spend a couple bucks at Lowes, HD, Menards, Ace, or whatever local hardware store you have, and install a grommet around your cable and over the hole. Then if they are that worried about it, it would look like it was supposed to be that way.

    That they would rather have the box looking good then tv. I can only picture these people having these big tvs in there house, and the screen is facing the walls so instead of watching programs they get to look at those pretty cables and plugs.
     

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