USB C - what works and what doesn't

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by pbb_memphis, May 13, 2020.

  1. Twendel

    Twendel New Member

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    I read other comments here about slow drive performance from USB-C installed apps, and so moved a few more of my apps to USB-C to see if I could tell the difference. I have no way to measure other than feel, but can perceive no difference running off the internal memory vs the USB-C micro SD in the no-name adapter plugged directly into the USB-C port.
    I wonder if there was a hub in between the port and the SD whether that would impair performance (which seems to be the case, for me, with ethernet)?
     
  2. Alex_7

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    My current set up is an old Patriot Blitz 32GB 3.1 USB flash drive
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    connected to the usb-c port using this adapter: https://www.amazon.com/Syntech-Adap...618202d589f7ca23f4e877df2af049&language=en_US

    I've experienced my apps crashing, two of those apps were Fubotv and Travel channel app.
    I bought this sandisk flash drive: https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultr...1b267b0ff0b30a9680ffb37139bf09&language=en_US

    not sure if using a different flash drive will fix my apps crashing, but i will test when my new sandisk arrives tomorrow

    EDIT: Maybe I should give SD card setup a try instead, I heard people are having better performance using an SD card vs a usb flash drive.
     
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  3. Twendel

    Twendel New Member

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    If you really are using a 3.1 flash drive, I'd suggest a change. I first tried a USB 3.1 flash drive, and the TS4k would not recognize it under any circumstances, even on a hub that did recognize other USB drives. Might be limits of the TS4K hardware or drivers, but I thought I'd read that 3.1 is not so universally useful as mere 3.0 or lower?
     
  4. Alex_7

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    My TS4k recognized my 3.1 drive right away and I formatted it as device storage successfully, but I feel my tivo device is struggling with app performance. I had a feeling 3.1 was causing issues, hopefully the new 3.0 sandisk drive will improve my apps running slow and crashing.
    I will be back tomorrow with an update thanks twendel.
     
  5. Alex_7

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    Just curious, the apps you were able to move to your usb drive, were they third party apps not from the google play store?
    I was only able to transfer third party apps to my usb drive, I couldn’t transfer official google play store apps until I enabled developer options then turned on “force allow apps on external”
    But I am experiencing app crashes and slow performance, are you having any bad app performance issues while installed on your external drive?
     
  6. Alex_7

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    FINALLY, after so much trial and error, testing different usb flash drives I finally found the one that worked for my TiVo stream at optimal speeds !
    For anyone who’s curious my current setup is:

    SanDisk Ultra Flair 64GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive - SDCZ73-064G-G46 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B015CH1NAQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_zMU9Eb00HEFS8

    Syntech USB C to USB Adapter (2 Pack), Thunderbolt 3 to USB 3.0 Adapter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CVX3516/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_fTU9EbG0S10Q4

    I am now completely satisfied with this set up, no more app crashes and slow app performance. Now all I need is an Ethernet adapter and I am all set but now this device will be running on WiFi in my den!
     
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  7. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    So for Ethernet adapter was there ever a consensus device that worked well? The links I see earlier in the thread to Amazon USB C to Ethernet adapter doesn't include its own USB power source which I assume is needed as well for the adapter? WiFi signal strength where TS4K is not the greatest, so I'd like to connect the TS4K to a MoCA adapter Ethernet port instead. Plan to use TS4K for my wife running YTTV as a replacement for TiVo DVRs and cable, so no need a solid network connection to it. Thanks.
     
  8. Alex_7

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    I heard that the Ugreen Ethernet adapters work the best, specifically any that have the AX88179 chipset since Android systems support this. Best thing is to look for an Ethernet adapter that is compatible with Nintendo switches since they also use the same chipset.

    UGREEN Network Adapter USB 3.0 to Ethernet RJ45 Lan Gigabit Adapter for 10/100/1000 Mbps Ethernet Supports Nintendo Switch Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MYTSN18/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_DNo-EbT4DQAE5

    you would need a Usb C adapter or hub to connect this to the usb c port on the TS4K

    some have had better success buying an OTG cable, plugged into the usb power port of the TS4K And connecting the Ethernet adapter to it.
     
  9. jaselzer

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    Just for the fun of it I dug these two items out of my closet and tried to mount them to the stream 4K. It worked perfectly. I was able to mount the USB stick as internal storage and then subsequently unmounted it. The 4K recognized the USB stick immediately.[​IMG]


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
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  10. Alex_7

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    Nice. I wonder what’s the highest storage the TiVo stream can take?
     
  11. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    OK thanks. I already have a USB C --> female USB 3 adapter, so that should work with the Ethernet adapter right?
     
  12. Alex_7

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    As long as it has an AX88179 chipset(compatible with Nintendo switch)
     
  13. Rickjb

    Rickjb New Member

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    I hooked up a 1 TB Seagate drive using an externally powered dock. I used it to test recording tv through the google "live channels" app. It formatted and recorded just fine. I dont recall doing anything special, once I got past the usb c to usb hub. Rube Goldberg.
     
  14. rczrider

    rczrider Active Member

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    It saw my 4TB Seagate external formatted exFAT without issue.
     
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  15. BillyClyde

    BillyClyde Active Member

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    This one worked immediately without any issues whatsoever for me, as I mentioned very early in this thread.....


     
  16. Alex_7

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    as removal storage or internal storage?
     
  17. Lenonn

    Lenonn Member TCF Club

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    I have tried two other flash drives, and neither worked (SanDisk Extreme Pro USB 3.0 128GB and Sony 64U 64GB). Both of those I had connected via AuviPal 2-in-1 OTG adapter and a Cable Matters USB-C to Micro-B Cable.
     
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  18. rczrider

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    Removable. It had media on it, so I didn't want to use it as internal storage. Same drive that feeds my Plex server.
     
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    mattyro7878 Well-Known Member

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    has anybody found a simple method of transferring whatever you want to the added drive? Ive only been allowed to move 3 or 4 apps. I get it that Netflix and such cant be moved. But everything I added or add should give me the option of moving to my 32gb drive.
     
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    Alex_7

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    Go to your settings --> Press on Build 7 times to activate Developer Options --> then select developer options --> go all the way down and turn on "force allow apps on external" This will allow you to move any app to your external drive.

    App developers add a code when creating apps that don't allow to be installed on external drives, but turning on this setting bypasses that.
     
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