USB C - what works and what doesn't

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  1. May 25, 2020 #81 of 184
    Dan203

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    That's the one I bought and it worked.

    Someone mentioned above that you have to disable USB debugging for it to work. Do you have that enabled?
     
  2. May 27, 2020 #82 of 184
    Nolo

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    I bought and received this dongle and it does work Out of the Box https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074FTWJGQ, however, its slow or at least gives a weird behavior with the Tivo 4k Stream. Using the Speedcast and the internet speedtest available in the Playstore, I'm only getting like 56mbps down and around 280mbps up. I have a gigabit fios line.

    I tested this USB ethernet with my PC and it can hit gigabit speeds without issue.

    I have a Lenovo 100/100mbps usb and actually that performs better in the download speed vs this USB gigabit ethernet. Im getting 99down/99up (due to being 100/100 only).

    No sure what's going in here but can someone confirm if the Tivo 4k Stream have enough bandwidth to support a gigabit connection?

    EDIT: So I tested the same amazon gigabit USB to my Nvidia Shield and it hit gigabit speeds without issues. It looks like the usb-c ethernet of the Tivo 4k is somewhat capped at around 250mbps.
     
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  3. May 28, 2020 #83 of 184
    Talyn

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    I got the UGREEN USB 3.0 Hub Gigabit Ethernet Adapter Network with USB 3.0 Hub 3 Port connected to a 2-in-1 Powered Micro USB to USB OTG Adapter Cable as recommended by this review.

    On the hub I connected a SanDisk Ultra CZ48 256GB USB 3.0 Flash Drive and a USB receiver for a Wireless Keyboard. When the flash drive is connected to the hub the ability to read from the flash drive was flaky, sometimes it wouldn't' read or would be extremely slow or freeze up. I also tried a Western Digital USB SSD with the same results. However if I bypassed the hub and connected the storage device directly to the OTG adapter cable I could read the external storage with no issues. Connect it back to the hub and bam, slow and unreadable. Removing the USB wireless keyboard receiver made no difference

    BTW Kodi had no problem reading both exFAT and NTFS formatted drives.

    At first I thought it needed more power, but I had no spare DC device to test with so I got hew newer version of the UGREEN USB 3.0 Hub Ethernet Adapter with 3 Ports USB 3.0 Hub which supports being powered by a micro USB cable. I connected that to a 5v USB power brick but it made no difference.

    Anyone reliably run gigabit Ethernet, a USB hub and storage device at the time?
     
  4. May 28, 2020 #84 of 184
    BillyClyde

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    Has anyone tried a USB-C to HDMI adapter to see if it works and maybe bypasses the forced SDR to HDR people complain about?
     
  5. May 28, 2020 #85 of 184
    mattyro7878

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    I have a 32gb SanDisk fat32 drive which was immediately recognized. I have a Toshiba 500gb with lots of DTS HDmaster audio music and FLAC files,TRUEHD- you get the point. It was NTFS so I reformatted it to exfat and still wont be recognized. Does this need to be powered seperately? The drive starts up and the light goes on but TS4K ignores it. My only format option was exfat. No fat32. Why is this? Any ideas to make this 500gb work?
     
  6. May 28, 2020 #86 of 184
    rczrider

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    A 500GB HDD almost certainly needs external power. The power adapter for the TS4K is only 5W; some (maybe most) portable HDDs can be powered by a properly spec'd USB 2.0 port (5V@500mA), but that's 2.5W. You'd be hard pressed to find a drive that needs fewer than 2W.
     
  7. May 28, 2020 #87 of 184
    mattyro7878

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    Thanks. I wont try a million times now that I know it cant work. I cant power it seperately. The input is a micro usb combined with something about twice that size. Any ideas?
     
  8. May 28, 2020 #88 of 184
    Talyn

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  9. May 28, 2020 #89 of 184
    rczrider

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    I'm actually confused about how you're hooking up a portable HDD in the first place. USB-C hub? The average portable HDD uses a pretty standard USB 3.0 A to micro B cable; you'd need an adapter or hub to make it work with the USB-C port on the TS4K. The only way to make a portable HDD work in this situation would be to get a powered USB-C hub as well as an additional power adapter and USB-C cable to power it.
    It's true that I assumed they were using an HDD and not an SSD. SSDs use, what, 50mW (rather than 2000mw/2W for the HDD)?
     
  10. May 28, 2020 #90 of 184
    rczrider

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    Forgive the double-post.

    Not sure how interested folks would be in just using a USB-C card reader, but I just tried my 128GB PNY microSD card in this $10 unit and it worked with no problem.
     
  11. May 28, 2020 #91 of 184
    Dan Shearer

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    I got a UGreen ethernet adapter working into the micro USB port. I'm using a 3A USB power source with it. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N1X28F1
    I was able to install it with Wi-Fi still connected and operating, though the power was cycled in the process. I had other stuff to do for an hour, came back and it was using the wired ethernet instead of Wi-Fi. So at least through the micro USB, with a compatible adapter, you just need to have USB debugging turned off. No need to disable Wi-Fi.

    I also have a Kingston 240GB SSD with Sabrent SATA to USB adapter and USB to USB-C adapter plugged into the USB-C port. Hence the 3A power supply just to be sure. I allowed the TS4k to format it (which took forever) and it seems to be working fine.

    The Channels DVR Server app seems to work OK, though I haven't recorded anything yet. I'm not sure if Live Channels is using the external storage. I haven't been able to get its DVR working yet. I plan to travel with this setup.
     
  12. May 29, 2020 #92 of 184
    mattyro7878

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    I have a usb-c to usb-a adaptor. Like I said a 32gb stick is fine but the bigger Toshiba Caanvio(?) 500 gb plugs into the adaptor lights up but is not recognized.
     
  13. May 29, 2020 #93 of 184
    rczrider

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    Ah, okay. Yeah, the issue is almost 100% power-related. You'd need something like the hub I linked to in the earlier post so that you can provide power to the drive. Of course, there's no guarantee that the particular hub I linked to will work, but it seems to me that most folks are having issue with Ethernet, not hubs and card readers.
     
  14. May 29, 2020 #94 of 184
    mattyro7878

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    I saw that 400gb video . I thought for sure I would glean some knowledge. But he was using a usb-c adaptor with a microsd card reader built in. No power issues..recognized immediatly. Other than playing the high rez files I had, I thing an extra 32gb should be plenty as far as adding apps goes.
     
  15. May 31, 2020 #95 of 184
    Talyn

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    I can not get a USB flash drive or USB SSD to reliably work off any USB 3 hub. When reading a video off the drive it times out or is super slow to read in Kodi. I've tried 5 different hubs (3 from UGreen, one Anker and Inateck) with varying levels of non functionality. The closest I could get is the flash drive to properly read once or twice if the hub was powered. If I connect directly (no hub) off the micro usb OTG y cable (with power connected) then it works fine with both the flash drive and SSD. On a USB-C to USB OTG cable only the flash drive works, the SSD refuses to read to be recognized at all. It looks like hubs are a no go if you want to connect a storage device to the hub.
     
  16. May 31, 2020 #96 of 184
    spiderpumpkin

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    Wall powered USB hard drives seem to work well. I used an old hard drive enclosure with old 3.5" drive and it worked and seemed fast.
     
  17. Jun 1, 2020 #97 of 184
    ke3ju

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    That worked for me too, thanks for the tip.
     
  18. Jun 2, 2020 #98 of 184
    Talyn

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    Was it connected to a USB hub or directly via USB-C or a OTG micro USB y cable? My problems only occur when going through a hub.
     
  19. Jun 3, 2020 #99 of 184
    spiderpumpkin

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    I used this adapter that I bought for my MacBook.
    USB-C to USB Adapter
     
  20. Jun 3, 2020 #100 of 184
    yodaphone

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    i tried the chromecast USB-Micro power adapter with ethernet & it doesnt work
    Had an old USB 2.0 "Plugable USB Ethernet Adapter" lying around. I used a USB-C to A adapter that i had (from Samsung Note) & it works like a charm

    I bought this vilcome USB C to Ethernet Adapter hoping that it would work, but alas the ethernet doesnt work but the USB hub worked. So i plugged my "Plugable USB Ethernet" adapter & that works. o_O.. added a USB FLash drive & that works too
     
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