USB C - what works and what doesn't

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  1. May 18, 2020 #21 of 187
    ke3ju

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    The FireTV Ethernet dongle does NOT work on the Stream 4K.

    Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
     
  2. May 18, 2020 #22 of 187
    Jamie Honnaker

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    omelet1978

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    Just from doing some digging the largest external hard drive supported so far that works is a 128gb flash drive.

    I guess I'm the only one hoping to hook up an external hard drive movie collection lol. Mine is like 2TB at this point and I'm starting to think getting a Plex server going is a better idea.
     
  4. May 18, 2020 #24 of 187
    philco782

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    If you attach a basic USB hub (simple 2.0 no-frills), can you simultaneously use ethernet and external storage?
     
  5. May 19, 2020 #25 of 187
    Dan203

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    Why not just stream from a NAS? Kodi can stream native without the special Plex server running. It can just do DLNA or even just SMBA shares.
     
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  6. May 19, 2020 #26 of 187
    omelet1978

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    I'm actually looking into NAS. It wasn't until recently I was able to get a movie collection big enough to warrant a Plex server or anything like that. Previously I had Roku Ultra's and they just simply let you plug in an external hard drive so I just had a 4 or 5TB portable hard drive plugged into a couple of my tvs.
     
  7. May 19, 2020 #27 of 187
    bmgoodman

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    SMB 1, 2, or 3?
     
  8. May 19, 2020 #28 of 187
    siratfus

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    Double confirmation. I had the Amazon branded Fire TV ethernet adapter, and it did not work.
     
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  9. May 19, 2020 #29 of 187
    Dan203

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    Actually I don't know. It's been a while since I used it. Back when I was I was using an SMB 1 share, but I assume they've updated to support 2 and 3 by now. But I can't say for certain as I haven't tried myself.
     
  10. May 20, 2020 #30 of 187
    rczrider

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    I've got a 4TB Seagate USB 3.0 HDD hooked up to my USB-C hub and it works fine. I had to provide the hub with power, of course. I used my Pixel 3 18W charger with USB-C/USB-C cable.
    I was able to, yes. My hub has gigabit, USB-C/PD power pass-through, a couple of USB 3.0 ports, card readers, and HDMI.

    I bought it a while ago (8 months, maybe?), so my version isn't available on Amazon anymore. There's an "upgraded" version, but I have no idea if it uses the same chipset/controller.
    A NAS is either cheap and a PITA to set up, or expensive and easy. While I agree with you, I think it's important to point out that it'll be significantly more expensive to set up a NAS than the Stream 4K itself.

    The easiest option for me was to just plug the HDD into my wireless router, which has 2x USB 3.0 ports. It's one of the $40 ASUS T-Mobile branded refurbs that were really popular on Slickdeals for a while there. Set up the share with a couple of clicks in the ASUS firmware and Kodi can stream no problem.

    That's what I used until I got my current TCL TV, which has Roku Ultra-level hardware in it. Roku doesn't support Kodi, of course, so if I wanted to use network storage, I had to go with Plex. The Stream 4K can decode anything, so you can use the cheapest and most basic Plex server just to serve up content...no transcoding required. A Raspberry Pi 4 would be more than enough, though I used a cheap, low-powered laptop running Windows since I had other uses for an always-on PC.
    I had to use SMB 1 when the drive was attached to the router; now that it's connected to the Windows laptop, I use SMB 2. I had to force SMB 2 (and exclude SMB 3) in Kodi on the Stream 4K to get it to work. I might be able to write out a quick guide if you have trouble.
     
  11. May 20, 2020 #31 of 187
    d_anders

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    Has anyone run into power issues with either the Google Chromcast ethernet adapter or the UGreen. In the instructions and noted by a couple of youtube reviewers, TiVo has noted how important it was not to use any other adapter than what they provided. When I compare the power settings between adapters, I don't see a big issue with the Google Chromecast adapter, but wanted to check those here whether they've seen any issues. The UGreen one does look hot.

    Also, if your TiVo4K Stream is close to it's access point, I wonder if it's worth having ethernet or not given these adapters only can do 10/100, and are not gigabit ethernet. I have done speedtests with TiVO Stream 4K, and I can get 300Mbps easily through on Wifi with my gigabit fiber connection.

    The travel adapter that TiVo provides with the TiVO Stream 4k has these spec's (on the back of the adapter)
    Input 100-240 V - 50/60Hz, Max. 0.2A
    Output: 5V 1A

    Google Chromcast Ethernet Adapter's power adapter has these spec's. Looks like it's fine, but does max out at 850mA output.

    Input: 110-240V AC 50/60Hz
    Output: 5VDC, 850mA
    10/100 Ethernet

    UGreen's powersupply looks like it would be too hot for TiVO 4k Stream
    Input: 5V/1A
    Output: 5V/2A
    10/100 Ethernet
     
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  12. May 20, 2020 #32 of 187
    sicariis

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    During my testing the Chromecast Adapter powered the TiVo Stream but could not get an Ethernet connection despite my switch showing an active link.

    The UGreen adapter is just a USB cable, I have it connected to the power brick that came with the Stream and for 2 days so far it's been great. No abnormal behavior to report.
     
  13. May 20, 2020 #33 of 187
    d_anders

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    I'm referring to this specific ugreen adapter that was referenced earlier. It has a power adapter, as noted in the description (and 3rd image on page profile).

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N1X28F1/
     
  14. May 20, 2020 #34 of 187
    philco782

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    As long as the voltage is just 5 volts, should be fine. It could put out 5v and 900a and be ok. (dont short anything out though!)

    There's this chap on Youtube, Photonicinduction, who constructs a transformer that puts out 10,000 amps at just a volt or two, it melts screwdrivers and wrenches, but the terminals are safe to touch (when at room temperature)
     
  15. May 20, 2020 #35 of 187
    omelet1978

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    Can you post the USB-C hub that you bought even though it's not sold anymore? Can do a bit of digging. Also, did you have to re-format your drive to FAT 32 or was it plug and play.

    I have Mac OS Journaled I believe and it worked on my Roku. Thanks for the help.
     
  16. May 20, 2020 #36 of 187
    Dan203

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    I just got my Chromecast Ethernet adapter and it doesn't work. I disabled wifi, and tried with it on but not connected, and it gets no IP. The lights on my switch are on, so it must be at least powering the connection, but the Stream 4K doesn't see it.

    Do you need to enable something to make it work? Or should it just work auto-magically?
     
  17. May 20, 2020 #37 of 187
    BillyClyde

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    On mine if you stay on the wifi settings page it’ll appear as if it isn’t working, but if you go back one page in the settings you can see it says that it’s connected to ethernet. Did you check it that way? I thought mine wasn’t working either at first, until I did this.
     
  18. May 20, 2020 #38 of 187
    Dan203

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    Yeah. Also tried rebooting and it popped up a warning that there was no internet about a minute after it booted.
     
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  19. May 20, 2020 #39 of 187
    Dan203

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    Doesn't look like it's going to work. I'm not sure why. Maybe more recent units have a different chipset?
     
  20. May 20, 2020 #40 of 187
    sicariis

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    Yes I'm the one that posted it. It does not include the power adapter. The picture states that it does not come with the power adapter
     

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