US Tivo Premiere vs VM TiVo

Discussion in 'VirginMedia TV with TiVo - UK' started by mikerr, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. mikerr

    mikerr TiVoCentral.co.uk

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    The VM Tivo is based on the premiere codebase (further developed by TiVo themselves for virgin to add OnDemand and VM branding)

    (All screenshots from US premiere and VM Tivo)
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    - not much difference there, but I prefer the use of colour icons - easier to see keep status on the US screenshot.

    We've gained

    • integration of on-Demand content - works nicely

    So what have we lost (or don't have yet) from the premiere?


    • ability to access "channels I receive"
      this has big repercussions for wishlists, as they get swamped with children's programmes,
      one possible fix is to allow wishlists to operate only on channel favourites.

    • ability to switch to "classic menus" exclusively, instead of switching between HD and SD screens.
      personally not bothered about this one, but wish they'd "finish off" the HD interface, so it never uses the old ones.

    • ability to choose the style of the liveTV guide - grid style or older live-guide:
      US users can choose: http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/226

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    • TiVo Desktop
      for transfer of recordings between TiVo and PC (both directions)

    • iPad app
      Apparently we'll get this soon

    • online season pass manager
      with backup & transfer between TiVos

     
  2. RichardJH

    RichardJH New Member

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    Mike excellent info.
    Must admit I would prefer the blue rather than VM red but no chance of that being changed. All the others I hope will feature in the VM features wishlist and hopefully come to us in the future.
     
  3. warrenrb

    warrenrb Quiet Member

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    The ability to toggle 'Channels I receive' seems like a no brainer to me. The arguments against seem to be either "It would confuse users", or "They are contractually obliged to show all the channels offered by the package".

    On the first point, I think that if they are all on, by default, most Joe Punters that might be somehow 'confused' by toggling channels will never touch it, and so it would never likely be an issue. Not a reason not to give the 'power users' (I use that slightly sarcastically) the chance to toggle them off.

    On the second, as far as I can see, so long as the channel is getting paid whatever they get paid for being in the XL package, why should it matter to VM or the channel provider if we then turn them off on our box? How is it any different from not having them in our 'favourites' and never watching them?

    As others have stated, beside the desire to remove channels we aren't interested in, the fact that we have to keep both the SD/HD of certain channels active, plus the multitude of region channels for the likes of BBC1 diminishes the quality of the search results. Likewise, the inability to separate radio from TV channels.
     
  4. nbaker

    nbaker New Member

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    Would be nice to have the old EPG back much better imo.

    Oh and the blue is way nicer the red just deosn't look quite right, but that won't change.
     
  5. sammyh25

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    Do agree the blue looks a lot better and much prefer the EPG overlaid on the picture.
     
  6. andyfoxccp

    andyfoxccp New Member

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    Best news on this , to me, is that the capability for the old EPG should be there and has potetially been customised out, which means it 'could' be put back :)!!!
     
  7. Digital Fanatic

    Digital Fanatic Virgin Media Staff

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    possibly advertising revenues?
     
  8. Major dude

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    It is still there under manual recording.
     
  9. Brangdon

    Brangdon New Member

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    That gives some browse options, but it doesn't give the 2-column guide overlay as shown in the last screenshot in the first message.
     
  10. mikerr

    mikerr TiVoCentral.co.uk

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    Another drawback of not having the old "live guide" in fullscreen tv is that ther is no programme descriptions ! :mad:

    You have to go into the fullscreen guide for that.
    Please tell me I've missed a key press? Info button only works for the currently tuned channel.
     
  11. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    Mike. Are you talking about the mini-guide? Just highlight a programme and select it ;) Tada! Programme details and options :)
     
  12. mikerr

    mikerr TiVoCentral.co.uk

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    Yes, the miniguide in full screen livetv:
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    Your method (bringing up the record window) only works for future programmes, otherwise it will change channel.

    The description should really be in the top header by the time - there is space onscreen for it.
     
  13. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    Knaresboroug...
    Good point. Yes, absolutely.
     
  14. Zaichik

    Zaichik New Member

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    That reminds me: when you call up programme information when you're watching it, how do you get to see the bit of the programme description which doesn't fit in the window?
     
  15. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    You can't. Already mentioned in the 'bugs' thread :)
     
  16. Zaichik

    Zaichik New Member

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    Thought not, but I was wondering if I was missing something. Turned out I was - the mention in the "bugs" thread! :D
     
  17. TCM2007

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    On the S1 you pressed Enter.
     
  18. Zaichik

    Zaichik New Member

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    Doesn't work on the VM TiVo. It doesn't have an enter key, but there is a button in the same place on the remote which works in the same way in some circumstances - just not this one.
     
  19. mikerr

    mikerr TiVoCentral.co.uk

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  20. Karnak

    Karnak 'Local'

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    @Digital Fanatic: Could you possibly make sure that opinions on the on screen guide format are fed back. I know that's the thing about the Series 1 that I miss the most and I doubt I'm the only one who feels that way. If it were possible to be able to choose the style as with the US TiVo I think a lot of people here would be very happy.

    Thanks.
     

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