Upgrading using a Mac ?

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by ebonovic, Dec 3, 2004.

  1. Laird

    Laird New Member

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    I did use devmapper to make sure I had the correct drive, so that wasn't it. When I gave the mfstool restore command manually, as you suggested, it went through the restore process, said all was well, but the drive still didn't work. When I power up the unit, the drive spins up, 'chatters' for a second or two, then nothing - I get the Welcome screen but nothing proceeds from there.

    Any other ideas? Thanks!
     
  2. ding

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    check this first.
    1. did you get the right instantcake cd for your unit
    2. did you put the 00001 image on your desktop from the .iso using cp or manually and backed up from the desktop image.
    3. what do you get when you use info comand on your new disk.
    I've heard of a few people having problems with a burned copy of instantcake due to media or whatever but having good luck backing up this way. hopefully someone with more will chime in.
     
  3. Laird

    Laird New Member

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    1) Yes, it does appear I got the correct instantcake CD - at least I know I ordered the correct one :)
    2) I mounted the instantcake image and copied the image file to the desktop by dragging it. Do you think this could be the problem? I'll try again, being sure to point to the file on the mounted CD image.
    3) When I use the mfstool info command, I get the error I posted in message #38 above - or do you mean doing a Get Info on the mounted disk image?

    Thanks again for helping!
     
  4. ding

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    Im not sure what it could be. Try posting here: http://forum.ptvupgrade.com see if anyone can help. hopefully you can get it working as this would be a great breakthrough. :up:
     
  5. TydalForce

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    Pardon me for reviving an old thread but I'm about to do this...

    I keep reading how MFSTools has a bug with swap files greater than 127gb, but haven't seen any mention of this related to OS X

    Since I'm about to install a 300GB drive, which should mean a 150MB swap... but with OS X, do I need to compile tpip? Or, will MFSTools compiled for OS work with that size? Or, should I just leave it ast 127?

    Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated! (c:
     
  6. TydalForce

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    OK compiling tpip was easy; I guess I'll use that when I get the time to embark on this adventure
     
  7. funkyjunkman

    funkyjunkman New Member

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    After many trials and much frustration trying to back up my damaged Tivo drive and restoring onto a new and larger HD using only the Mac OS X version of mfstool, I have a couple of observations that might be helpful. Like in the post above, I was getting a lot of errors while trying to get info or file listing of my restored drive even though mfstool said the backup and restore were working properly.

    First, I wasn't using running mfstool as super-user, and putting sudo in front of the mfstool on the command line seemed to help.

    Second, I found that the mfstool 2.0 download I was originally using didn't seem to work consistently. I found a slightly newer version of this file on the deal data base forums in a file named 'TiVo OS X.pkg.zip'. I used Pacifist to remove the command line tools instead of using the installer.

    Using sudo and using that particular version of mfstool on my Intel based MacPro worked perfectly and after hours of failed attempts I am finally up and running with my new Hitachi 250GB drive!
     
  8. RAZUR_BLADEZ

    RAZUR_BLADEZ New Member

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    Keep it simple, get an old pc, I use an old PII-333 and use an old 16gb ibm hard drive and a 8x cdrw. It works like a charm. Sure beats having to mess with my nice PC's.

    David
     
  9. trantor

    trantor New Member

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    Anohter Mac user here, wanting to upgrade a hard drive in Mac OS X.

    I have a replayTV, and used dd to duplicate the hard drive to another larger disk, and then a simple command line tool to expand the disk partition capacity to the proper size.

    it seems that on tivo, the process is much harder. i have searched for hours for Mac versions of MFStool, and cannot find anything, except perhaps a source that needs compiling, and I am not a programmer, and do not know how to compile code.

    All the links for Tivo to mac tools seems dead. I would like to try the Tivo alongside the Replay. So far, I like the Replay interface better, but do not have enough experience with both yet.

    I am not going to buy a PC for this. So please no snarky answers. If there are no mac tools, I can just sell this unit. I would find that disappointing, however. Its weird that OS X, which should be easy to work with for these kinds of tools, does not have Tivo tools available.

    If I missed something, I'm sorry, but I have searched as best I could, asked in various other lists, etc, and can't find any working Mac tools for Tivo.
     
  10. ForrestB

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    The Macs outnumber the PC's in my house 6 to 1 - but this is one of those rare instances where the PC is the best tool for the job.
     
  11. phototrek

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    I have a MacPro and tried to boot the various Linux hacking CDs - they boot, but then I have no keyboard because there seem to be issues with the keyboard. Interestingly, I have keyboard input at the boot prompt, but then it dies. Whatever.

    I also have a PC at home, but it doesn't have SATA which I would need for the Series-3 upgrade. I don't want to buy a SATA card - I have already two, but they are PCIe so my old PC can't use them. I won't buy another PC, now that they are really obsolete for other purposes than TiVo hacking (Parallels and BootCamp do everything else just fine). And I can't get the sources from Sourceforge to compile.

    What's next? :)
     
  12. voidptr

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    Anyone have any luck getting a restore for a Series 1 and a G5? I've got the dd osx mfstools installed and an old backup taken a couple years ago on a PC, but neither -B nor -b seem to produce a bootable image. Anyone know what the head of the disk should look like? I'm assuming it's still flipping bytes or words somehow (one gives me strings like '3txE' and one is 't3Ex', my gut is on a ppc it shoud be 'Ext3' for a series 1). If I knew what it was supposed to be I might be able to hack mfstools to dtrt.

    Unfortunately my beater pc I used to use for this is a few hundred miles away and the drive in my T60 just cooked itself after being tossed around on a plane.
     
  13. Ult

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    Okay I just did this using my MBP (intel duo2 laptop) and Ding's instructions from above. My setup was a bit different because I only had 1 USB/IDE adapter to connect the drive to my laptop which meant I had to do a bit of switch-a-roo w/out the luxury of two USB/IDE adapters. (so no source/target drives connected at the same time)

    I downloaded the compiled MFSTOOLS for MACOSX as stated above from the deals link. Then I connected my TIVO to the USB adapter then to my mac and first did the mfstools backup onto my Mac (about 200mb):

    mfstool backup -f 9999 -6so tivo.bak /dev/disk1

    I knew it was disk1 thanks to Disk Utility

    Okay once I had that, I unplugged my TIVO drive, plugged in my new DB35 drive from weaknees and copied the backup to the new drive:

    mfstool restore -s 127 -xzpi tivo.bak /dev/disk1

    Once done, I ejected with Disk Utility and popped it into my tivo. It booted up just fine.

    Now, the only caveat here is that I did not choose to do a full stream restore thus my recordings were not transfered but my subscriptions, season pass, configs, etc all were. It was fine as I only had about 4 recordings on it anyway.

    If I were to do a full transfer with recordings, I would have to have 80g of free space to create a tivo.bak with full stream (Ding's -Tao command from above) then restore that stream to my new tivo drive. But as I'm running a test run of this as I type this, it's a slow going deal. For example, the full stream is taking about 10 minutes to go just shy of 1%. Then remember I have to do it all again to restore the stream onto the new tivo drive so times that by 2 to get the final time. Long story short - if you dont care about saving your old recordings it's quick and painless and if you do care about saving your recordings it will take a few hours.

    Let me know if you have any questions... as funkyjunkman pointed out above, it took me hours and hours to figure this out but once you get it, it was much easier with thanks in whole part to the already compiled mfstools for the mac (essential) and the posts here in this forum along with Hinsdale's instructions.

    Now to get some fresh washington DC air outside... :)
     
  14. phototrek

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    Can you please post exactly which OSX mfstool you used? I am not lazy going thru this thread; I did that, and the stuff that I donwnloaded wouldn't work :(
     
  15. octopus80

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    I copied the file 000001 to my desktop and renamed it tivo.bak (I went to the .images directory and typed

    cp ./000001 ~/Desktop/tivo.bak

    From there, I just used the standard restore command:

    sudo /usr/tivo/bin/mfstool restore -s 127 -xzpi ~/Desktop/tivo.bak /dev/disk1

    note: as you can see above, I used the tivo.pkg that is referred to earlier in this thread to install the mfstool.

    I am using MacOS 10.4.11 on a 17" Powerbook G4.

    Thanks for the great instructions. I didn't have to touch a PeeCee.

    TT


     
  16. joestan

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    If you have a intel based mac and fusion from vmware with windows insatlled you can run the windows pgm msftools just like you would on a windows box. I works perfectly.
     
  17. dtphonehome

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    How would one go about doing this with Parallels on a Macbook? I have a IDE to USB adaptor, but only one.
     
  18. joestan

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    IF you are upgrading a s3 or tivohd you will need a sata to usb convert (newagge $15 - $20). Download winfms and use it to backup your old tivo drive and restore it to the new one. I will work using parallels but will take hours parallels does not support usb 2.0 and will read/write at usb 1.1 speed. You may want to check the vmware wegsite and see if the still offer the free 30 trial.
     
  19. Mindflux

    Mindflux TiVowned

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    I realize this is an old thread, but this is very welcome news. Woo hoo.

    Can you use WinMFS to copy the whole tivo drive? Settings and recorded content? I haven't managed to find much on that?
     
  20. mickrussom

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    Lol, macs are PCs now with a cryptic replacement for BIOS (EFI) which is inferior to openboot.

    While I have a hackintosh here, after computing for decades (and using mostly Unix/Linux/etc for work), the bulk of the zealotry seems to concentrate in the Apple camp.

    "Get a PC" is actually probably the easiest way to deal with this, as "mac" could mean quite a large number of machines with different CPU types and HDD support.
     

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