Upgrading S3 to more than 1TB?

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  1. Jan 3, 2012 #1 of 21
    buscuitboy

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    I'm having issues with my S3 TiVo & am about to replace the internal hard drive (see other post). I thought I read that my Series 3 could only be upgraded to a max of 1TB drive, but I'm thinking that might be some outdated info as I'm seeing there are 1.5 & 2TB drive upgrades available from different online vendors. Is there a disadvantage of having a larger drive like this? If so, what are they?
     
  2. Jan 3, 2012 #2 of 21
    donnoh

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    I upgraded my Tivo HD to 2 TB and have also upgraded both of my Premieres with 2 TB hard drives.

    I did the HD myself and the Premieres using drives I bought from DVR Dude on ebay. If there is a down side the only one I can think of is the cost of the larger drives.

    I highly recommend DVR Dude, for not much more than the cost of a drive and the time you save I think it's well worth it. He has a 2 TB drive for your Tivo listed now for $189.99 which is only about $30-$35 over the price of a bare drive.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/TiVo-Series...249?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a5ee2e511
     
  3. Jan 3, 2012 #3 of 21
    atmuscarella

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    The only disadvantage to upgrading an original Series 3 HD to 1.5 or 2TB is you have to buy a drive with the software already on it, which means you loose your saved shows if you don't transfer them off the original drive before swapping the drives.

    For the Premiere or TiVo HD you can transfer the software from the original drive and your saved shows to a 1.5 or 2TB drive yourself and maybe save a few $$.

    Good Luck,
     
  4. Jan 3, 2012 #4 of 21
    unitron

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    There were some changes between the original S3 and the S3 HD.

    Apparently the S3 is limited to size of original drive plus 1.1TB (decimal GBs/TBs), so you can use most of a 1.5TB, but that's the upper limit.

    And you still have to worry about maximum number of partitions and all that.
     
  5. Jan 3, 2012 #5 of 21
    Teeps

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    I have a S3 model TCD648250B (has the led display) with DVR_Dude 2TB drive that works fine.

    Except, see this thread: http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=472857
    Short story, if you use a tuning adapter you may have to put the t/a on a power timer.

    DVR_Dude does offer a program transfer service for extra charge. But, this requires more down time... Still your choice.
     
  6. Jan 3, 2012 #6 of 21
    lrhorer

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    Not true. DVR_Dude offers a system transfer service. If you buy one of his drives, send him your TiVo, and pay some additonal moola, he will transfer the contents of your original S3 TiVo to a 2T internal drive.
     
  7. Jan 3, 2012 #7 of 21
    unitron

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    You didn't happen to make a copy of the partition map before installing the drive, did you?
     
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    Teeps

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    unitron

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    See post #7 by GBL. He lists the output of Mfsnfo on a 2TB S3 drive.

    Then look at post #8 by ravingfan. He lists the steps to create a 2TB S3 drive using WinMFS and MFSlive.

    The posts are here:
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=476443
     
  11. unitron

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    GBL's post is of a DVR-Dude drive's partition map (of a 2TB for an original S3) originally posted by wlepard.

    The curious thing is that instead of the first 15 partitions taking up the first 1TB, and the 16th taking up the second 1TB, the 15th partition is 1TB in size and the 16th fills up the remaining room.

    When I did my (not on an original S3 but on an HD) "copy the 160GB drive to a 1TB drive with WinMFS, with a 1MB swap, and expand, and then copy the 1TB to a 2TB and expand with jmfs", I, of course, wound up with the 16th partition being the 1TB one.

    Previous accepted wisdom was that for an S3 the limit was the 250GB of the original drive plus the 1.1TB (digital, which is 1TB binary) of what would otherwise be an external drive.

    An S1 or an S2 can handle 2 1TB drives, master and slave, on the IDE cable.

    I've got a 2TB free at the moment and an S2 I can take "off line" for a few days. Let's see if jmfs will let me use a single 2TB on an S2.
     
  12. A J Ricaud

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    I don't know if this is a good deal or not, given the current prices for hard drives, but Newegg has "Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARX 2TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive" for $139.95, free shipping, WITH PROMO CODE:
    EMCJKKE22.
     
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    Over and above my lack of confidence in Hitachi drive reliability these days, I'm pretty sure that TiVos can't use anyone's 3TB drives. Not sure about 2.5TB drives, in the unlikely event of finding one at a decent price.
     
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    Very interesting. I thought I couldn't go bigger than the 1TB on my Series 3 (TCD648250B). I upgraded the HD myself last time. I also thought my model was very picky about compatible HD models. Does DVR dude know something we don't? I think I need to investigate further. :)

    Thos.
     
  17. unitron

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    It would appear so, and since he makes money at it, I'm pretty sure he's not going to be sharing that knowledge anytime soon. Can't blame him, really. I wish I could reverse the cash flow where TiVos and I are concerned.
     
  18. gameboy2oo2

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    Can you use all 2TB space?
     
  19. unitron

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    I've seen a copy of the partition table of one of DVR_Dudes's 2TB drives for the original S3 (TCD648250) and although it has some oddities compared to regular TiVos, it does use all of the space.
     
  20. gameboy2oo2

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    I tried to use the ebay link in the post to link to DVR Dude, but the link is not available anymore. What brand of harddrive is it? Thanks.
     

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