Upgrade offer to expire in 2 Days/New Pricing Plan

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  1. May 16, 2011 #1 of 110
    shadowplay0918

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    Just received email from Tivo stating I have 2 days to upgrade at my current offer and then they list new pricing at bottom of email. I was considering getting rid of my last series 2 (also have 2 HDTivo's) this fall when I have more $$ but maybe not depending on new offer...


    New pricing begins May 19th

    DVR pricing: $99.99 TiVo Premiere OR $299.99 TiVo Premiere XL DVR with purchase of a TiVo service plan
    Service plans*: $19.99/mo. with 1-yr commitment OR $499.99 Product Lifetime service
     
  2. May 16, 2011 #2 of 110
    prisk

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    Anyone have any idea on the new pricing? TiVo rep I talked to was very tight-lipped.
     
  3. May 16, 2011 #3 of 110
    socrplyr

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    I have been expecting a similar movement. It doesn't make sense for Tivo to keep the two tiered pricing. It only makes sense to raise the price on Lifetime and move on. This allows you to get any available plan by purchasing at retail (which for me I think may be currently hurting Tivo). Now what might be interesting to see is the price after that 1-year contract is up. I do hope that it stays in the $13-15 range, but I bet it will all go to $19.99. This would make Tivo not very competitive on price and with questionable (at best) product superiority in the marketplace. We'll see how this all turns out.
     
  4. May 16, 2011 #4 of 110
    brettatk

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    I just got the email. I tried to click on the link but maybe it's getting hammered because it's not loading for me.
     
  5. May 16, 2011 #5 of 110
    bikegeek

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    The Tivo site is really slow.
     
  6. May 16, 2011 #6 of 110
    socrplyr

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    It is loading faster than normal for me... Maybe it is a peering issue...
     
  7. May 16, 2011 #7 of 110
    socrplyr

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    Well all pages except the upgrade page. Must be hosted on a different server...
     
  8. May 16, 2011 #8 of 110
    rifleman69

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    Using their $19.99 pricing, Lifetime makes sense after the 25th month.
     
  9. May 16, 2011 #9 of 110
    ecoblue

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    I had planned to purchase upgrades for my Humax DRT800 and Tivo HD today--before I received the email. If I was planning to wait around, this would certainly have motivated me to buy now.

    The new prices aren't bad, but my current upgrade offer is a little less. :)

    Still, it's great to see that Lifetime service isn't going away. It's just getting a price adjustment to reflect the (currently) lower prices of the Tivo boxes at retail.
     
  10. May 16, 2011 #10 of 110
    garys

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    The pricing confusion is probably good to get away from, but getting rid of pricing benefits for existing lifetime subscription owners only makes sense if they have a product that is so superior to the existing boxes that the difference between what users have (and have fully paid for) and what the user could have is worth the $600 or $800 in new costs (minus whatever the existing box gets on ebay).

    I have two tivo HDs and two series 3s, and there simply is no compelling benefit to upgrading to a Premiere.

    All of which has me thinking that the new pricing plan only works in conjunction with substantially improved new hardware (like the Tivo hardware come out in Great Britain) or with some spectacular new Premiere-only features (more than just some iPad app). Access to on demand content from Comcast might do it, but Tivo's record on rolling out that kind of thing on time doesn't instill confidence.

    On the flip side, the new pricing plan means that the ebay resale value of my used series 3 or tivo HD with lifetime subscription is probably going to increase significantly, so maybe the trick is to upgrade today, hold the old lifetime Tivo's for a month or two while the ebay prices rise, then sell them.
     
  11. May 16, 2011 #11 of 110
    ducker

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    Right now if I want to upgrade my Lifetime S2 unit I'm looking at
    $269.99 TiVo Premiere or $449.99 TiVo Premiere XL
    and $199 for lifetime
    So... $468.99 / $648.99
    Versus after the 18th

    DVR pricing: $99.99 TiVo Premiere OR $299.99 TiVo Premiere XL DVR with purchase of a TiVo service plan
    Service plans*: $19.99/mo. with 1-yr commitment OR $499.99 Product Lifetime service

    $599.98 / $799.98

    Now the current upgrade offer is with an incentive. the question will be what kinda incentive will they be offering with that new pricing. Otherwise I don't see current customers wanting to really upgrade.

    Now if this is really only just allowing people now to purchase a Lifetime subscription for $500 right away instead of paying $19.99 a month for a year prior to purchasing lifetime, that makes sense, and hopefully they will be sending out numbers for current customers and upgrading in the future.
     
  12. May 16, 2011 #12 of 110
    brettatk

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    Site still will not let me see the deal, but i'm sure it's the same as ducker outlined above. I don't think I'm going to bite and upgrade my S2. Now if they offered a deal that allowed me to transfer my S2 lifetime to a Premiere then I'd take a closer look even if it meant paying more for the Premiere, say something like $349.99.
     
  13. May 16, 2011 #13 of 110
    atmuscarella

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    I wonder why more people haven't gotten this email seems like we should all get it.

    This is a pretty big price increase currently most of us either have $469 or $500 upgrade deals with lifetime looks like now it is going to be $600? or will there still be a MSD that brings the price back down to $500?

    Thanks,
     
  14. May 16, 2011 #14 of 110
    socrplyr

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    Incentives have always come and gone. I agree with you that it means that they won't be as good of a "deal" as they are now. I am sure that within 6 months (probably less) there would be another similar incentive if it is actually profitable for them to sell at that price. Remember that right now the $469 deal is a reduction of $229 from $698. This pricing puts it at $598, which is the same as the current $299+$299 pricing for MSD (so they are just dropping the "upgrade" offer for a while). I haven't gotten the email yet, but I am interested to know if it is $99+$499 for someone without a prior subscription or not. What was posted doesn't really indicate (and I don't know that it does/doesn't).
     
  15. May 16, 2011 #15 of 110
    blacknoi

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    So the $12.99 / month 1st unit / $9.99 MSD discount pricing is going away entirely?
     
  16. May 16, 2011 #16 of 110
    groot

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    NOTE: I love my Tivo and you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.

    Here's what I find absolutely hysterically funny. The new pricing plan displayed in the email is $99.99 for the Tivo Premiere, but yet when I click on the "special upgrade pricing just for me", it's $199. So, why would I ever upgrade now?

    Oh yeah... and... When I read the message on my phone, because they played with the font sizes and didn't actually insert the ".", the new pricing showed up as $9999 for the Tivo Premiere or $29999. I thought for a minute that Tivo was about to lose a LOT of business. I guess it just didn't look right to insert a "." anywhere in the price.
     
  17. May 16, 2011 #17 of 110
    socrplyr

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    Tivo's emails don't go out to everyone immediately (limitations on mail servers). I have seen up to a day or so difference from when others get them. Hopefully this one comes out faster as it is time sensitive.

    For your questions, see my post before this one. This is equivalent to the current MSD pricing, so I don't know that you want to always run your incentive pricing. Typically companies run incentives for time periods. This way some purchase a full price and those who don't b/c of price hopefully wait until you do run the incentive. Also, remember that I am betting you could buy a box off Amazon ($84 today) and at least get a bit of a discount.
     
  18. May 16, 2011 #18 of 110
    socrplyr

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    Who knows, this doesn't indicate either way.

    It just indicates what a new box will require.
     
  19. May 16, 2011 #19 of 110
    smark

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    I got the email as well. Though I can see no reason to upgrade since I'm on 12.95 and 6.95 for my two TivoHDs.
     
  20. May 16, 2011 #20 of 110
    blacknoi

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    So in an effort to reduce confusion, they've created more. Seems about right.

    Dunno, I've been holding off on buying a lifetime premier unit with this incentive offer because of a # of reasons (HD interface not being finished, no 2nd core utilization, bugs people reported here etc)... not sure if this will change my mind..
     

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