Upgrade Bolt Vox on Hydra w/dead hd. to external WD red 3.5 in hd.

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  1. Apr 7, 2020 #1 of 11
    skipper64

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    I have looked around for a few days and have not found a solution to my problem.
    I bought a bolt vox 500gb w/ lifetime service, weakknees and drive failed after a while so I read here that the WD20NPVZ was plug and play and it worked fine for 10 months now it is also dead. I now know I waited to long as the hd is completly dead and I'm stuck on hydra and want to go to an external 3.5 in drive but read something about hydra not working with external drives if you don't go back to TE3.
    I have an external roswell hd case w/fan, a new 2tb WD Red WD20EFAX 3.5 hd, and the sata cable to go from external hd case to the sata port on the bolt mb.
    What I don't have is a working drive to downgrade tivo to accept external drive.
    Am I out of luck or is there a way to get a bolt vox on hydra to work with a new external 3.5 in hd without downgrading bolt?
    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
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  2. Apr 7, 2020 #2 of 11
    jmbach

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    You should be okay. I do not think the 3.5" drives are having an issue with TE4, only many 2.5" drives. The major hiccup is the eSata to SATA connection might not work. Most people are having to hook up a SATA cable to the drive and directly connect to the SATA port in the bolt to get it to work.
     
  3. Apr 7, 2020 #3 of 11
    skipper64

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    I have it hooked it up with a sata cable from tivo mb to external case with sata and get stuck on "starting up". Thats where I thought the TE4 was the problem.
     
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  4. Apr 7, 2020 #4 of 11
    jmbach

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    So you bypassed the eSata connection on the external enclosure.

    What drive are you using?

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  5. Apr 7, 2020 #5 of 11
    skipper64

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    Yes
    I tried to upload a picture but it says file to big but yes, I have a cable from external case with WD RED HDD to sata port on mb of the bolt. The hdd is WD20EFAX in a Roswell fan cooled case.
     
  6. Apr 7, 2020 #6 of 11
    ClearToLand

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    The first thing, which is the point I believe @jmbach is trying to make, is that you need to bypass *ALL* of the external case electronics for the DATA plug. Somehow you need to get power to your new 3.5" HDD but you also need the SATA cable to go DIRECTLY from the TiVo motherboard to the 3.5" HDD. You can't use the connector on the case.

    Since I've never done this myself, I can't tell you which cases work as-is and which need to be 'modified'. But, the thread that I LINKed to in my other post with @Tivogre should have enough success stories with the parts used LINKed.

    Good Luck! :cool:

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  7. Apr 7, 2020 #7 of 11
    skipper64

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    I was hoping to be able to use a external case but can figure out another way to hide the hdd. Keeping it cool will be a problem tho. I will try to hook it up with out the case.
     
  8. Apr 7, 2020 #8 of 11
    skipper64

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    I took it out of the case and hooked it up directly to the mb and it gave me the 4 flashing lights like a dead drive does but I ran a program checking the drive for errors and it found no bad sectors on it.
     
  9. Apr 7, 2020 #9 of 11
    jmbach

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    The motherboard cannot supply enough power to the drive. You will need to power the drive externally while having the drive hooked directly to the motherboard.
    What drive are you using?

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  10. skipper64

    skipper64 New Member

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    I have know idea how to power a hdd itself but will look around.
    It is a WD20EFAX
     
  11. skipper64

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    The picture you posted is from post 154 in "Bolt Hard Drive Upgrade Choice" which is exactly what I want to do. To bad he did not show how he modified the circuit board plug in for power. I dont think it is possible with the case I bought. I might have to buy the one he has and see.
     

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